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dingbat
    30-Jul-2012 13:53  
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1 or 2 sharks circling the waters waiting for chump. Whether shorting or longing, get out when you see blood    Looks like a mini upwards trend.
 
 
Bopanha
    30-Jul-2012 13:41  
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If you need to short the market, wait for 1.31 with stop loss $1.35 and down target $1.25.  Good luck to both longies and shorties. Hahaha.
 
 
chartreader
    30-Jul-2012 13:35  
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LOL, it probably is ... have seen very very strange bid / offer movement with the most frequent 1 lot buy up / sell down.

But the trend is the actual " true intention" of the smart money whether they're going in or out of a particular stock. I haven't seen the sign of bottoming or change in trend yet for Genting, so I still keep my bearish view. Any rebound is a chance to get out and shorting.

 
 

 
Flyordie
    30-Jul-2012 13:25  
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Just my 2 cent view.

Been observed if   i see the Bid size of 888,000. The price is trending up.

In the contrary, if i see Ask size of 888,000. The price will trend down.

Don't luagh at me, don't scold me. I am just sharing what i abserved.

Don't believe me? Watch it yourself. The 888,000 (will stay atleast 3 seconds)

Is it like a signal between BB to BB : Dude, i am ready , how about u? Ok, go !!!! 

chartreader      ( Date: 30-Jul-2012 13:19) Posted:



Personally I don't think the trend for Genting is changing ... It is just short covering to minimize the risk because of improved market sentiment recently.

Indeed this will be a very good shorting candidate when the market sentiment starts to deteriorate again.

There is better and stronger stock for long.

 

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chartreader
    30-Jul-2012 13:19  
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Personally I don't think the trend for Genting is changing ... It is just short covering to minimize the risk because of improved market sentiment recently.

Indeed this will be a very good shorting candidate when the market sentiment starts to deteriorate again.

There is better and stronger stock for long.

 

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oldflyingfox
    30-Jul-2012 13:01  
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What a suprise!
 

 
chartreader
    30-Jul-2012 12:45  
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short covering on genting ...
 
 
edchai
    30-Jul-2012 10:57  
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I  completely agree with you.

From iPunter ...

" Many stock newbies look in forums for 'good tips'...

  The result is that some newbies  new will really take a post at face value.

          The result can be disastrous, as they are not discerning enough to

                  know that no one knows the market's next move... Smiley  "


 
 
iPunter
    30-Jul-2012 10:31  
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The first and most valuable lesson for all newbies to grasp is this:-

    Playing stocks IS betting (on the outcome)...  Smiley


 
 
rotijai
    30-Jul-2012 10:18  
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sifu warren's refering to tips without any further explanation and keep asking ppl to buy buy buy or short short short...

any good advice or sharing is always welcome in this forum

rutheone1905      ( Date: 30-Jul-2012 09:35) Posted:



Star, i like wat u say.   sharing is good so tat we all grow together.   like warren had said we all hate buy tips becos there r still many newbies out there waiting to buy their 1st HDB.

keep contributing ur views its ok sometime ppl will rub on u.   i notice few contributors had left alrdy which is quite disappointing. 

star-trader      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 14:39) Posted:



 

The very first time I come to the forum here is not to get tips or what, rather to learn and share.. There is nothing better than yourself to make good judgement when forumers posted their own views though some with their own technical analysis   but one should not just take that as the tips. When I post, I usually want to make clear that is my own personal view as I don't want to derive you from believing this is the tips as I am not a tipster, just want to share my technical analysis and hope if someone providing comments to my post, I will very much accept as we learn from each other in the process..

Why I named myself star-trader, because the very first time I came here, I was fascinated with a forumer called 'Bintang' -> in Malay it is called " Star" .
He provided a very good insight on technical analysis of any stocks and I do really appreciate that..

Chill up guys, and happy weekend..

Star-Trader 


 

 
rutheone1905
    30-Jul-2012 09:35  
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Star, i like wat u say.   sharing is good so tat we all grow together.   like warren had said we all hate buy tips becos there r still many newbies out there waiting to buy their 1st HDB.

keep contributing ur views its ok sometime ppl will rub on u.   i notice few contributors had left alrdy which is quite disappointing. 

star-trader      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 14:39) Posted:



 

The very first time I come to the forum here is not to get tips or what, rather to learn and share.. There is nothing better than yourself to make good judgement when forumers posted their own views though some with their own technical analysis   but one should not just take that as the tips. When I post, I usually want to make clear that is my own personal view as I don't want to derive you from believing this is the tips as I am not a tipster, just want to share my technical analysis and hope if someone providing comments to my post, I will very much accept as we learn from each other in the process..

Why I named myself star-trader, because the very first time I came here, I was fascinated with a forumer called 'Bintang' -> in Malay it is called " Star" .
He provided a very good insight on technical analysis of any stocks and I do really appreciate that..

Chill up guys, and happy weekend..

Star-Trader 

warrenbegger      ( Date: 27-Jul-2012 22:53) Posted:



Most tips in forum r mosty rubbish traps.

Good advise is good, but so call tips r all bullshiit and rubbish. 2 r very different things, but many r confusing.

*Once we drive out of road, we r all at the mercy of deadly accident. No matter how good your skill r, the most we can do is try hard to be more safe out there.



 


 
 
rutheone1905
    29-Jul-2012 22:38  
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this may not be true.

many knows that i short genting for many days liao n approaching 10 Aug i will be probably cover all my shorts n take profit run. y i say tat becos plunge in genting price probably alrdy factored in due to MBS bad reporting.   from 10 Aug till next financial reporting is another few months away, so my take is it may reverse if the report on 10th is not someting unexpected one.

therefore i may in fact long upon arrival of this date.   cheers 

bishan22      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 17:05) Posted:

Aug 10 is the result. More downside to come.  Smiley

 
 
Oldbird
    29-Jul-2012 22:24  
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I do not want to cast doubt on the technique you use for your trading,
But tell me the answers 3 years or 10 years or perhaps quarter century from now. I bought my first stock North Boneo Timber more than quarter century ago, that why i use that as a guage.
Overconfident is always very dangerous!
Good luck! Friend.
 
 
iPunter
    29-Jul-2012 21:46  
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A clarification on " trading opportunity" ...

  It should more accurately be termed " betting opportunity', since the outcome is speculative in nature.

        Thus, even when one bases one's bets on a stock chart and bets at strategic points on the chart,

            one still need a sound and unemotional system of  play in order not to lose much in the betting... Smiley


 
 
star-trader
    29-Jul-2012 21:25  
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To Oldbird

Let me define  what I meant by trading volume with mini wave, flat and not active share..

If you look at some stocks that interest the investors, be it long or short-sellers , you will see the stock will have most price movement because of interest be it buying or selling thus creating the price to swing up/down that causes mini-wave.

For flat, Not much interest on the stock, very low trading volume, perhaps only XX K, eg: 40k,20k volume and it calls for the day, unlike those like big volume XX M volume..

Not active stock , the stock can be so not active until no interested to play it , when the market opens, it is the pre-close price, when the market closes for the day, it is still no volume, thus still stay pre-close price..I believe you have seen many stocks like that in SGX..

So, my reply below to regards to this is , when you see volumes, you will see the swing because of demand and supply , vice versa.

Of course, we as human always greed that cause the downfall.. Have you ever been in situation where you win the trade, but hopeful it will goes up, but then it drops below the price you bought? So sometimes we just can't say " trading opportunity exists in few times a  year" or " stock like betting"   because sometimes is you that cause the downfall itself.. :)

Anyway, this is only my personal view and share upon what I think .. :)

Star-Trader

 
 

 
Oldbird
    28-Jul-2012 18:47  
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To startrader,
I think high frequency trading may work if only if u r a computer runs with powerful proven algorithm, which means u r 100% disciplined, emotionless, no greed or no fear !
ai...,,we r all human lar!
 
 
iPunter
    28-Jul-2012 17:56  
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When playing stocks, the most dicey thing is a crash or unexpected big slump...

    Such a slump is obviously entirely possible at any unexpected moment in time.

          Thus, buying stocks frivolously (frequently) without due serious consderation for

                the Risk/Reward factor uppermost in mind is not a good way to play stocks.


 
 
star-trader
    28-Jul-2012 17:47  
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Not true for most of the case..Applicable to those stocks that not high volume( not popular) and flat most of the time..

Looks at those that with on trading volume, you will find the mini wave occuring which means every opportunity is there if you know the so-called " outcome" ..

My personal view only.

Star-Trader

iPunter      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 16:09) Posted:



Actually, much as people want to be involved 'full-time' in stocks, that is rather impossible.

    This is because trading opportunities only exist a few times a year.

          Most of the time is spent in waiting for the outcome...

                or the opportunity to enter ... Smiley


Oldbird      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 13:26) Posted:

When i say boring or non exciting, i am refering to business opportunities. Here, all the "hor thun"businesses r dominated by the G.R.C! Stock market should be viewed as part time, if one is to focus all his time n energy In stock markets, He will probably end out with nothing!


 
 
bishan22
    28-Jul-2012 17:05  
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Aug 10 is the result. More downside to come.  Smiley
 
 
iPunter
    28-Jul-2012 16:09  
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Actually, much as people want to be involved 'full-time' in stocks, that is rather impossible.

    This is because trading opportunities only exist a few times a year.

          Most of the time is spent in waiting for the outcome...

                or the opportunity to enter ... Smiley


Oldbird      ( Date: 28-Jul-2012 13:26) Posted:

When i say boring or non exciting, i am refering to business opportunities. Here, all the "hor thun"businesses r dominated by the G.R.C! Stock market should be viewed as part time, if one is to focus all his time n energy In stock markets, He will probably end out with nothing!

 
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