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iPunter
    22-Nov-2010 21:03  
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 Sifu Pharoah88 's comment has validity too.

     Especially in view of the fact that 'Technical Analysis' has evolved

        to become a highly involved and even intricately academic activity in itself.

            With so many arcane formulae and computations involved in the derivation of the indicators,

                'TA' has indeed become a 'fashionable' activity for masses of traders.

                     But owing to the fact that most technical indicators are based on past data,

                          they are lagging and therefore not of much usefulness as a tool in gauging tomorrow's direction.

                             To be useful, an 'indicator' of price direction must be leading (as opposed to lagging).

                                But such an indicator does not exist in this world.

                                    Thus, the notion of 50/50 chance or probability put forward by Sifu Pharoah is sensible... Smiley





 
 
Leinadgnow
    22-Nov-2010 20:37  
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pharoah88 .. you are talking about the flipping of a coin test as stated by Benjamin graham base on his intelligent investor. If the statistics to 3 times heads does not make a tails the next time more likely because it is a 50 - 50% chance of hititng. In this case, when you stupidly and naively gamble and place ur bets base on hearsay and rumours.. it applies to you as the trade either has a 50% chance of making or breaking you.. However, What TA does is not to entirely negate this effect.. TA helps you to gain more insight and minimize your % risk thereby increasing ur risk/reward ratio due to more information and knowledge.. y ou need FA and TA... fundamental and  technical and seek confirmation before going in for the trade. Without either, if purely fa, you will have to wait and hold for eons in order to get some returns base on market conditions.. some companies never even takes off in one's life time till much later ... or you could just ta and lose money.. but if you use ta and fa,.. you know the main important point which is to enter at which level at what price base on data and trend/price movement rather then parking your money there and letting inflation eat at it.

 

Also, you have been quoting signals buy and sell volume trend since god knows when .. that in itself is technical... how can you say it is a 50% flip if you believe in it so much? rather, i suggest you you think about what you are saying carefully before posting.

 

Sorry for not posting recently and replying my pm's.. exams are 2mrw till next weke tuesday .. after which im back in the market full time till january 4th and school begins again :(

 

Happy trading all.

Btw, the best time to load up is base on historical charts, the lowest volume period.. 

however, you have to realize that the 1870's deflation and the 1929 depression went down with severe rallies on the way down too.. be prudent and watch the market.. don't lump everything into one prymaid.. i mean.. basket.




pharoah88      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:07) Posted:



STATISTICALLY

Going  Up        =  50%  CHANCE

Coming down  =  50%  CHANCE

TA  is  as  gOOd  as

thrOwIng  a  cOIn  ?

 
 
AnthonyTan
    22-Nov-2010 19:00  
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I think is ok. Not filfty nor obscene lah

epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:54) Posted:

hey, be careful.... got young people in the forum..... mind ur language.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:51) Posted:



LPPL = lan pah, pah lan ??????


 

 
bishan22
    22-Nov-2010 19:00  
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reminds me of the SAF days 30 years ago. Frequently used by all ranks. Heard one full colonel using it to explain his officers during the ops order briefing. heheheheh. Smiley

epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:54) Posted:

hey, be careful.... got young people in the forum..... mind ur language.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:51) Posted:



LPPL = lan pah, pah lan ??????


 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:54  
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hey, be careful.... got young people in the forum..... mind ur language.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:51) Posted:



LPPL = lan pah, pah lan ??????

 
 
AnthonyTan
    22-Nov-2010 18:51  
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LPPL = lan pah, pah lan ??????
 

 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:39  
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sorry expert.....

 

your advice like LPPL ?



pharoah88      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 18:07) Posted:



STATISTICALLY

Going  Up        =  50%  CHANCE

Coming down  =  50%  CHANCE

TA  is  as  gOOd  as

thrOwIng  a  cOIn  ?

 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:36  
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iapple. any updates on the interest rates ?

iApple      ( Date: 19-Nov-2010 07:38) Posted:



Congrat for ppl to survive through the storm..


Sunshine from the USA...will shine through the morning S'pore

 

However, kindly remember the RAIN STORM from CHINA which is called INTEREST RATE...may come TODAY or NEXT WEEK...

Action must be FAST...

 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:31  
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maybe tomorrow morning, somebody will be kind enough to show us the market depth,,,,,,,



epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:03) Posted:

16:28:28 2.050 1,000 S
16:28:27 2.050 10 S
16:28:25 2.050 50 S
16:28:22 2.050 1,300 S


 

bb buying up.

 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:22  
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signal did not have any effect today ?

pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Nov-2010 16:15) Posted:



Friday:  19 11 2010  prIce actIOns

GENTING  lIkes  to  annOuncement  Over  WeekEnd!

16:12:09 2.050 2,047,000 Sold To Buyer


15:11:56 2.060 1,096,000 Bought From Seller
15:11:55 2.060 1,295,000 Sold To Buyer


15:01:09 2.060 2,065,000 Bought From Seller


sIgnal

15:01:05  2.060  6,000,000  Bought From Seller


14:35:44 2.050 1,017,000 Bought From Seller


14:35:42 2.050 2,000,000 Bought From Seller


14:14:32 2.040 2,456,000 Bought From Seller


11:58:20 2.040 2,000,000 Sold To Buyer


11:30:02 2.050 1,564,000 Sold To Buyer
11:30:02 2.050 1,436,000 Sold To Buyer


11:03:12 2.060 1,629,000 Sold To Buyer


11:01:29 2.060 1,350,000 Sold To Buyer


10:56:53 2.060 2,201,000 Bought From Seller
10:56:49 2.060 100,000 Bought From Seller
10:56:48 2.060 2,000,000 Bought From Seller


10:39:35 2.060 1,685,000 Sold To Buyer


S$2.07  HAPPY  BUY

09:49:05 2.070 1,093,000 Bought From Seller
09:48:57 2.070 269,000 Bought From Seller
09:48:55 2.070 1,074,000 Bought From Seller


09:46:50 2.070 2,430,000 Bought From Seller
09:46:49 2.070 1,235,000 Sold To Buyer


09:28:32 2.080 1,096,000 Sold To Buyer


2059  GAME  PLAN

09:21:28 2.080 2,059,000 Bought From Seller


09:05:53 2.080 1,114,000 Sold To Buyer


S$2.08  is  a  nIce  bIte  tOO

09:03:12 2.080 1,000,000 Bought From Seller


S$2.05  is  the  bOttOm

08:59:02 2.070 1,153,000 Sold To Buyer
08:35:00 2.055 2,000,000 X

 

 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:07  
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good, i just giving a friendly advice, of course listening to master daniel.... the young man got lot of stuff ! it make us think..... if his family was so much affected by the market that he has depend on some social welfare..... how come we did not wake up.....

i meant it as a reminder for myself.....and some friends here.....

we all got greedy hence that is what happened !



rabbitfoot      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:40) Posted:

Thanks. This year has been good for me, very blessed. Picked all the right ones. In the Black now, Very black after severely Burnt by Chartered Last Year.  

epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:38) Posted:

be careful..... do not invest so much like cannot find....

 



 
 
pharoah88
    22-Nov-2010 18:07  
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STATISTICALLY

Going  Up        =  50%  CHANCE

Coming down  =  50%  CHANCE

TA  is  as  gOOd  as

thrOwIng  a  cOIn  ?
 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 18:02  
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so need a friendly advice..... win back slowly....

 

do not rush in ......



iPunter      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:56) Posted:



You are right...

   The stock market is a unique and interesting animal.

      If one bets small, one gets only 'kuching kurap' gains (ikan-bilis).

         Usually when a trader has become expert after a chain of consistent profits,

              he/she will normally become very confident in his/her own trading skills.

                 Then from there, he/she will feel supremely confident enough to 'scale up' his/her bets.

                     This means he/she will very confidently 'whack big' (ie. 'mau' in Hokkien),

                           in order not to waste time on small bets.


                              But paradoxically,

                                  it is when they are supremely confident that they will lose a lot of money.

                                  And when they lose a lot of money, their dominant desire will be to win back those losses.

                                     And in doing so, they will then revert to becoming emotional in their trading.

                                        This is in spite of their possessing superb trading skills.

                                             But such is only human... Smiley






 
 
pharoah88
    22-Nov-2010 17:57  
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Stock Code i Rmk Ccy Last $Chng %Chng Vol Buy Vol Buy Sell Sell Vol Open Previous Day Hi Day Lo Ind
FreightLinks F01 i -- SGD 0.095
+0.005 +5.6 127,497,000 5,542,000 0.095 0.100 27,263,000 0.090 0.090 0.105 0.090 C,M    
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 2.050
+0.010 +0.5 53,100,000 1,398,000 2.050 2.060 6,348,000 2.060 2.040 2.070 2.040   M    
MDR A27 i -- SGD 0.005
0.000 0.0 44,521,000 17,884,000 0.005 0.010 225,670,000 0.005 0.005 0.010 0.005 C      
TopGlobal 519 i -- SGD 0.015
-0.005 -25.0 30,047,000 184,298,000 0.015 0.020 481,373,000 0.015 0.020 0.020 0.015 C,M    
e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.450
-0.005 -1.1 28,604,000 263,000 0.450 0.455 1,695,000 0.460 0.455 0.465 0.445   M    
GoldenAgr E5H i -- SGD 0.715
-0.005 -0.7 22,894,000 2,440,000 0.715 0.720 1,756,000 0.725 0.720 0.730 0.715   M    
HSI23800MBLeCW101230 MG2W i -- SGD 0.275
-0.015 -5.2 21,052,000 20,000 0.270 0.275 18,000 0.300 0.290 0.305 0.255         
GLP MC0 i -- SGD 2.260
+0.040 +1.8 19,308,000 1,409,000 2.250 2.260 20,000 2.270 2.220 2.290 2.250 C,M    
Noble Grp N21 i -- SGD 2.090
+0.010 +0.5 17,664,000 270,000 2.090 2.100 562,000 2.060 2.080 2.110 2.060   M    
Roxy-Pacific E8Z i -- SGD 0.405
+0.030 +8.0 17,625,000 629,000 0.400 0.405 54,000 0.390 0.375 0.415 0.390 C,M  
 
 
iPunter
    22-Nov-2010 17:56  
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You are right...

   The stock market is a unique and interesting animal.

      If one bets small, one gets only 'kuching kurap' gains (ikan-bilis).

         Usually when a trader has become expert after a chain of consistent profits,

              he/she will normally become very confident in his/her own trading skills.

                 Then from there, he/she will feel supremely confident enough to 'scale up' his/her bets.

                     This means he/she will very confidently 'whack big' (ie. 'mau' in Hokkien),

                           in order not to waste time on small bets.


                              But paradoxically,

                                  it is when they are supremely confident that they will lose a lot of money.

                                  And when they lose a lot of money, their dominant desire will be to win back those losses.

                                     And in doing so, they will then revert to becoming emotional in their trading.

                                        This is in spite of their possessing superb trading skills.

                                             But such is only human... Smiley





 

 
pharoah88
    22-Nov-2010 17:53  
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Monday:  22 11 2010

D B S  Recommendation

GENTING  2.04   2.70   BUY



bishan22      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:44) Posted:

Stock Pick

For all to read: DBS recommendation.

19/11

CDL Hospitality Trust 2.06 2.28 Buy
Cosco Corporation 2.08 2.35 Buy
Genting 2.04 2.70 Buy
First Resources 1.39 1.55 Buy
Indofood Agri 2.66 3.05 Buy
Keppel Corp 10.88 11.30 Buy
SembCorp Marine 5.08 5.48 Buy
Spore Airlines 15.96 18.74 Buy
UOL 4.65 5.23 Buy


epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:38) Posted:

be careful..... do not invest so much like cannot find....

 



 
 
pharoah88
    22-Nov-2010 17:49  
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  GAP
 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 17:48  
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may need a few months to reach these targets.

bishan22      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:44) Posted:

Stock Pick

For all to read: DBS recommendation.

19/11

CDL Hospitality Trust 2.06 2.28 Buy
Cosco Corporation 2.08 2.35 Buy
Genting 2.04 2.70 Buy
First Resources 1.39 1.55 Buy
Indofood Agri 2.66 3.05 Buy
Keppel Corp 10.88 11.30 Buy
SembCorp Marine 5.08 5.48 Buy
Spore Airlines 15.96 18.74 Buy
UOL 4.65 5.23 Buy


epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:38) Posted:

be careful..... do not invest so much like cannot find....

 



 
 
bishan22
    22-Nov-2010 17:44  
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Stock Pick

For all to read: DBS recommendation.

19/11

CDL Hospitality Trust 2.06 2.28 Buy
Cosco Corporation 2.08 2.35 Buy
Genting 2.04 2.70 Buy
First Resources 1.39 1.55 Buy
Indofood Agri 2.66 3.05 Buy
Keppel Corp 10.88 11.30 Buy
SembCorp Marine 5.08 5.48 Buy
Spore Airlines 15.96 18.74 Buy
UOL 4.65 5.23 Buy


epliew      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:38) Posted:

be careful..... do not invest so much like cannot find....

 



rabbitfoot      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 17:37) Posted:



Read DBS glowing report on GENS, somemore target of 2.70.

Must Grab by this week  or be Left Out  !


 
 
epliew
    22-Nov-2010 17:41  
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what is the timeline.... is the good question when dividend arrived !!!!

seen many people - include my hero cannot find losing money ( myself included also lost 8K, so my humble advice, take a small bet.... do not over commit yourself)

unless u are sitting on a en-block fund...  (drop from heaven !!! otherwise all other money are hard-earned money)



iPunter      ( Date: 22-Nov-2010 11:43) Posted:



This is a very special stock.

    Remember recently, this was the only stock that kept on rising and rising

       while all other stocks are falling like pebbles?


          Although there are no dividends to talk about, a casino business is good money.

              As long as people love gambling, there is a high chance of it

                  being profitable and thus eventually giving out a dividend.

 
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