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normally if it's a trust, it doesnt go up/down fast (no speculation).
alianto1969 ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 10:44) Posted:
I really dont understand does it make a difference whether its a trust, catalyst stock or a mainboarder? Lehman brothers was a mainboarder. Pccw was a mainboarder. Dont all these stocks, reits and trust have one thing in common to make money? Even blue chippers like those i mentioned fell and man they were humpde dumpdes. Everything is a gamble to me. And there is always a gambling side to it and earning side to them. It all depend on the person's personal risk taking appetitte and capabilities. Well thats my point of view. Mr Li has another 50 yrs lease hold on these ports and the heir is a capable guy. So i will buy this for my grandson cos the chinese gov and their family have a long standing relation. His heir's age is not too old.
rotijai ( Date: 19-Mar-2011 18:38) Posted:
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet |
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I really dont understand does it make a difference whether its a trust, catalyst stock or a mainboarder? Lehman brothers was a mainboarder. Pccw was a mainboarder. Dont all these stocks, reits and trust have one thing in common to make money? Even blue chippers like those i mentioned fell and man they were humpde dumpdes. Everything is a gamble to me. And there is always a gambling side to it and earning side to them. It all depend on the person's personal risk taking appetitte and capabilities. Well thats my point of view. Mr Li has another 50 yrs lease hold on these ports and the heir is a capable guy. So i will buy this for my grandson cos the chinese gov and their family have a long standing relation. His heir's age is not too old.
rotijai ( Date: 19-Mar-2011 18:38) Posted:
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:06) Posted:
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I believe the insti buyers are getting it at 95. I just came back from HK last week. But you have to be 1 million lot and above. It is actually more for HK buyers and fund managers cos their currency is pegged on the US. So i was lucky i got mine at 95 too but not with i mil lot hahaha.
shoemaker ( Date: 23-Mar-2011 08:50) Posted:
I thot everybody, even institutional investors are buying at US$1.01? Maybe some conversion losses but not much. Frankly, the IPO could have been US$1.08 if not for the Japan quake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown? Branded name IPOs always get launched at the higher end of the price range...
rotijai ( Date: 19-Mar-2011 18:38) Posted:
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet |
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US dollars is really a gamble ?
rotijai ( Date: 19-Mar-2011 18:38) Posted:
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:06) Posted:
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I thot everybody, even institutional investors are buying at US$1.01? Maybe some conversion losses but not much. Frankly, the IPO could have been US$1.08 if not for the Japan quake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown? Branded name IPOs always get launched at the higher end of the price range...
rotijai ( Date: 19-Mar-2011 18:38) Posted:
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:06) Posted:
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* HPH Trust: Credit Suisse highlighted that new listing HPH Trust has a projected dividend yield of 6.2%.
HPH Trust would rank among the highest dividend stocks within the MSCI Singapore, behind just StarHub, AREIT and SPH, noted Credit Suisse.
MSCI Barra announced on Friday night (18 March) that HPH Trust would be added to the MSCI global standard indices effective 1 April 2011.
Based on the HPH Trust’s debut closing price of US$0.95 on Friday, HPH Trust has a market cap of S$11 bn and is the 18th largest stock in Singapore.
there are many ways to calculate and view whether it's at a premium or not..
the price tat this ship offer ranged from 0.98 to 1.01 and the public actually bought it at 1.01 (ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC BOUGHT HIGHER THAN 1.01 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION)...
and the main reason why i didnt apply was because this is a trust..
which means ppl buy for investment (yield).. not speculate and gamble/bet.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:06) Posted:
how to calculate whether it's at a premium or bargain?
rotijai ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:03) Posted:
stx was introduced at a lower price..
this giant's out at a premium..
better think twice : |
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anybody knows the allotment info?
how to calculate whether it's at a premium or bargain?
rotijai ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:03) Posted:
stx was introduced at a lower price..
this giant's out at a premium..
better think twice :)
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:41) Posted:
Wah.. so suck thumb and sell?? -5.5% le... hopefully it's bear trap... like STXOSV.. lacklustre start but after that chionggg... |
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I agree. And the PE is like over???????????
rotijai ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 15:03) Posted:
stx was introduced at a lower price..
this giant's out at a premium..
better think twice :)
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:41) Posted:
Wah.. so suck thumb and sell?? -5.5% le... hopefully it's bear trap... like STXOSV.. lacklustre start but after that chionggg... |
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stx was introduced at a lower price..
this giant's out at a premium..
better think twice :)
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:41) Posted:
Wah.. so suck thumb and sell?? -5.5% le... hopefully it's bear trap... like STXOSV.. lacklustre start but after that chionggg...!
warrenbegger ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:38) Posted:
| What rubbish long term? Today just follow the trend and think on weekend when u free. Need at least 2 week than can tell u what the long term look like |
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Wah.. so suck thumb and sell?? -5.5% le... hopefully it's bear trap... like STXOSV.. lacklustre start but after that chionggg...!
warrenbegger ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:38) Posted:
What rubbish long term? Today just follow the trend and think on weekend when u free. Need at least 2 week than can tell u what the long term look like.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:32) Posted:
Hmm... Seldom see big name IPOs drop so much on 1st day opening... Any idea on the long term prospects of this counter? |
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What rubbish long term? Today just follow the trend and think on weekend when u free. Need at least 2 week than can tell u what the long term look like.
shoemaker ( Date: 18-Mar-2011 14:32) Posted:
Hmm... Seldom see big name IPOs drop so much on 1st day opening... Any idea on the long term prospects of this counter? |
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Hmm... Seldom see big name IPOs drop so much on 1st day opening... Any idea on the long term prospects of this counter?
