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Octavia
    28-Nov-2013 16:13  
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Trading Central notes the stock is still on the upside, supported by a ST rising trend line. Both the 20-day and 50-day moving averages are turning up, and play well as support roles. Furthermore, the RSI bounced off its neutrality area at 50%. As long as $3.25 is not broken, further advance seems more likely to $3.75 and $3.92 in extension.
 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 13:54  
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Some players are still thinking they can play both way through out the rally process.

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 13:46) Posted:

What need to go up, has to go up. Shortists can't buck the trend, you think too much.

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 12:55) Posted:

Will shortist see my post and try to kill me by bring it down to 3.16 again? Wahahahahaha!!!!!!


 
 
Rosesyrup
    28-Nov-2013 13:46  
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What need to go up, has to go up. Shortists can't buck the trend, you think too much.

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 12:55) Posted:

Will shortist see my post and try to kill me by bring it down to 3.16 again? Wahahahahaha!!!!!!

 

 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 13:25  
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What will force me to sell Wilmar.

Soybean crushmeal and soy oil

http://www.feedtrade.com.cn/soybean/kucun/2019526.html

If all the figure of soybean crush margin are as bad as last year same period like below. Now is positive, last year can be minus few hundred dollar. But Wilmar still manage to breakeven this division last year with their right timing of soybean procured. So only minus 100 to 200 will let me consider to sell Wilmar

http://www.feedtrade.com.cn/soybean/kucun/2011305.html 

CPO price

Last year same period, CPO price falling down to 2200 and slowly moved up in Dec till 2500.

http://www.palmoilhq.com/
This year same period, CPO price is above 2600, when approaching to CNY period,  CPO will rise high and believe it will touch 2800 and may even touch 3000 since coconut oil supply are reduced badly due to typhoon in philippines and Indonesia and Malaysia government are trying to blend more palm oil with the petrol and diesel in order to reduce their subsidy on petrol.

Sugar business

i won't doubt about the profitable in this division even global sugar price drop further. The 3 biggest sugar consumption countries are Indonesia, India and China. Especially indonesia which Wilmar has strong dominant in this country. The raw material, sugar cane and sugar milling facility  is from Australia which has the shipping cost advantage to these 3 countries compare to Brazil and corn sugar from USA.

So overall, no doubt, Wilmar will perform better and their share price will follow so long as US don't be funny again.
 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 12:55  
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Will shortist see my post and try to kill me by bring it down to 3.16 again? Wahahahahaha!!!!!!
 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 12:53  
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I used to have 20 at 3.16 2 months back. Just add on with the profit gain till 50+lots and hitting the limit given by poems cfd at 3.53. So long as price is above 3.53, cash will be generated as my safety margin without selling  the share to prevent margin call.

Will keep this 50+ lots till CNY. After that,  see how is the CPO price, soybean crush margin and sugar price and Wilmar operational environment. Of course will sell off all if anything go wrong. so far, still alright, wilmar moving to correct direction.

lglg666      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:41) Posted:

Got 20 yesterday at 3.55 but didn't get the rest....today Q for the rest still, may not get since it has already ran off. Still happy with 20 lor

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:36) Posted:

Do you load back yours? You are expert in short term trade which can catch every single fall


 

 
lglg666
    28-Nov-2013 11:41  
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Got 20 yesterday at 3.55 but didn't get the rest....today Q for the rest still, may not get since it has already ran off. Still happy with 20 lor

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:36) Posted:

Do you load back yours? You are expert in short term trade which can catch every single fall.

lglg666      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:25) Posted:

Yes....it should be able to do that and to retest the 3.65 level too. HUAT A


 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 11:36  
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Do you load back yours? You are expert in short term trade which can catch every single fall.

lglg666      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:25) Posted:

Yes....it should be able to do that and to retest the 3.65 level too. HUAT AH

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:03) Posted:



Ok. 3.6 again. This time must stay above!!!!


 
 
lglg666
    28-Nov-2013 11:25  
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Yes....it should be able to do that and to retest the 3.65 level too. HUAT AH

ynnek1267      ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 11:03) Posted:



Ok. 3.6 again. This time must stay above!!!!

 
 
olehze
    28-Nov-2013 11:23  
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$4 by end of year. HUAT ARH
 

 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 11:03  
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Ok. 3.6 again. This time must stay above!!!!
 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 09:28  
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Yesterday strong close give today confidence. Hope to stay above 3.6 after today close
 
 
ynnek1267
    28-Nov-2013 06:39  
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Really a thick face skin person. Already told him his theory on term loan to Wilmar is a joke. Still posting as a reason for questioning Wilmar business sustainability to mislead others.

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:11) Posted:



Lol why you come here to spam them every night?

Just leave your " prediction" and if it prove to be accrucate already good enough.

In fact, no need to prove, if really accurate, you will become wealthy quickly.

MetalTrader      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:09) Posted:

Battle of Prediction (Wilmar)
19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar
    will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount.    Market closed at                $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]               
20 Nov- Market fall to                  $3.52.                                (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)                               
On 20 Nov closing:  I predicted that there will be                several downfalls beneath $3.52.                                The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.                         
21 Nov-  Market fall to                $3.48
22 Nov
-  Market rises to                $3.55
23 & 24 Nov
- I  foresee several  tornadoes  below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
                                                      The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov-   
Market closed    $3.59      I saw    a very high risk    at current level.       
26 Nov-    Market closed    $3.58     (a point lower)
27 Nov-  Market closed  $3.55   (3 point lower)


Wilmar Financial Data
According to Bloomberg, Current Price/Book           
1.2476
26 Sep- Term Loan increased from US1.5 Billion          to US2.065 Billion + Interests
11 Jul- Term Loan of            US1.5 Billion           

(Within 2 months - Debts increased another US 565 Millions + Interests!!!)

What do you think Wilmar is worth?


 
 
MetalTrader
    28-Nov-2013 00:16  
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyfeJjr1OUA& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:11) Posted:



Lol why you come here to spam them every night?

Just leave your " prediction" and if it prove to be accrucate already good enough.

In fact, no need to prove, if really accurate, you will become wealthy quickly.

MetalTrader      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:09) Posted:

Battle of Prediction (Wilmar)
19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar
    will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount.    Market closed at                $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]               
20 Nov- Market fall to                  $3.52.                                (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)                               
On 20 Nov closing:  I predicted that there will be                several downfalls beneath $3.52.                                The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.                         
21 Nov-  Market fall to                $3.48
22 Nov
-  Market rises to                $3.55
23 & 24 Nov
- I  foresee several  tornadoes  below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
                                                      The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov-   
Market closed    $3.59      I saw    a very high risk    at current level.       
26 Nov-    Market closed    $3.58     (a point lower)
27 Nov-  Market closed  $3.55   (3 point lower)


Wilmar Financial Data
According to Bloomberg, Current Price/Book           
1.2476
26 Sep- Term Loan increased from US1.5 Billion          to US2.065 Billion + Interests
11 Jul- Term Loan of            US1.5 Billion           

(Within 2 months - Debts increased another US 565 Millions + Interests!!!)

What do you think Wilmar is worth?


 
 
MetalTrader
    27-Nov-2013 23:44  
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Farmer      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 17:44) Posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_1VYEyiDqk

MetalTrader      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 00:53) Posted:

My forecast will be as a reference. You can treat the forecast as a joke, entertainment / a movie.
It is entirely up to you, at your own cost.





 

 
Rosesyrup
    27-Nov-2013 23:11  
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Lol why you come here to spam them every night?

Just leave your " prediction" and if it prove to be accrucate already good enough.

In fact, no need to prove, if really accurate, you will become wealthy quickly.

MetalTrader      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:09) Posted:

Battle of Prediction (Wilmar)
19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar
    will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount.    Market closed at                $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]               
20 Nov- Market fall to                  $3.52.                                (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)                               
On 20 Nov closing:  I predicted that there will be                several downfalls beneath $3.52.                                The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.                         
21 Nov-  Market fall to                $3.48
22 Nov
-  Market rises to                $3.55
23 & 24 Nov
- I  foresee several  tornadoes  below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
                                                      The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov-   
Market closed    $3.59      I saw    a very high risk    at current level.       
26 Nov-    Market closed    $3.58     (a point lower)
27 Nov-  Market closed  $3.55   (3 point lower)


Wilmar Financial Data
According to Bloomberg, Current Price/Book           
1.2476
26 Sep- Term Loan increased from US1.5 Billion          to US2.065 Billion + Interests
11 Jul- Term Loan of            US1.5 Billion           

(Within 2 months - Debts increased another US 565 Millions + Interests!!!)

What do you think Wilmar is worth?

 
 
MetalTrader
    27-Nov-2013 23:09  
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Battle of Prediction (Wilmar)
19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar
    will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount.    Market closed at                $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]               
20 Nov- Market fall to                  $3.52.                                (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)                               
On 20 Nov closing:  I predicted that there will be                several downfalls beneath $3.52.                                The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.                         
21 Nov-  Market fall to                $3.48
22 Nov
-  Market rises to                $3.55
23 & 24 Nov
- I  foresee several  tornadoes  below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
                                                      The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov-   
Market closed    $3.59      I saw    a very high risk    at current level.       
26 Nov-    Market closed    $3.58     (a point lower)
27 Nov-  Market closed  $3.55   (3 point lower)


Wilmar Financial Data
According to Bloomberg, Current Price/Book           
1.2476
26 Sep- Term Loan increased from US1.5 Billion          to US2.065 Billion + Interests
11 Jul- Term Loan of            US1.5 Billion           

(Within 2 months - Debts increased another US 565 Millions + Interests!!!)

What do you think Wilmar is worth?
 
 
MetalTrader
    27-Nov-2013 23:00  
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Updates of Prediction (Realized)

1) Wilmar (Track Record)

19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar      will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount.        Market closed at                    $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]                   
20 Nov- Market fall to                      $3.52.                                                                (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)                                                               
On 20 Nov closing:  I predicted that there will be                    several downfalls beneath $3.52.                                                                The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.                                                 
21 Nov-  Market fall to                    $3.48
22 Nov
-  Market rises to                    $3.55
23 & 24 Nov
- I  foresee several  tornadoes  below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
                                                                                      The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov-        Market closed        $3.59          I saw      a very high risk      at current level.           
26 Nov-        Market closed        $3.58         (a point lower)
27 Nov-       
Market closed        $3.55         (3 point lower)

2) Swiber (Track Record)

7 Nov :  Market closed 0.68.  I predicted a fall to 0.64 within 1-2 week, while most claimed uptrend.             
8 Nov:    Market closed              0.665.
9 Nov:  I predict Swiber will      fall to 0.64 within 4 days (14 Nov).
11 Nov:           
  Market closed              0.67
12 Nov:           
  Market closed              0.67
13 Nov:           
  Market closed              0.655
14 Nov:                Market falls to             0.635, and closed at 0.645.
Ended Prediction on 14 Nov


On 16 Nov-                    Swiber closed at            0.64.  I forecast Du Shen forecast is half correct.           
On 18 Nov-                    Swiber closed at          0.64. (without dropping nor extending gain)
On 18 Nov night-   I asked DuShen to carry on with his forecast
On 19 Nov-            Market closed lower at          0.635
On 20 Nov-
            Market closed lower at          0.63
On 21 Nov-
            Market closed lower at          0.625
Ended Prediction on 21 Nov 

Revived Prediction (named Dragon of Fury) because of      ynnek1267,      Du_shen    & Silvermansac'  s    arrogant         
26 Nov-  market closed at 0.645.     
27 Nov before market open-      I forecast an extended short gain of 0.64-0.65. [
Swiber is  mainly taking an extended short term gain, &     downside trend will begins]
27 Nov- Market closed at 0.635.  (Market extended short term gain as predicted to 0.65 high, & falls to 0.635)


3) Midas (Track Record)
19 Nov night-               
I predicted Midas of $0.50 is an over-priced stock. Its run up from $0.35 to $0.50 within a year is not sustainable, as its IPO only valued at $0.115. Given the speculators pushed to the limit of $0.50,                downtrend is to be expected.
20 Nov-                  I  warned that 941k of Midas is                a poor support.  The value of Midas is overly aggregated & will                fall once support is gone.
21 Nov night-              Though there is a bit volume upped for Midas, but            it will be            a falling trend in due time. As its value is of speculative level.
Updates:  From 19 Nov - 21 Nov, market closed at $0.50              continuously  for 3 days  without any gains.
22 Nov -  Midas falls to $0.495 (The 1st fall, as predicted
24 Nov -         
I foresee that the downtrend will continue.
25 Nov -        Market closed at $0.495        continuously for 6 days without any gains
26 Nov -       
Market closed at $0.495 
27 Nov -        Market closed at $0.495      continuously for 8 days without any gains



4) Noble Group (Track Record)   

2 Nov, 3, Nov:  I predicted a rise when Noble Group was falling till from a high 1.03 to 0.99.                 
                          Others claimed will drop further & fake break point. [I advocate a rise, despite most advocate a further fall]
5 Nov: I predicted a rise. Market closed at                1.045 from 0.99.               

6 Nov:                I still predicted a rise. Market closed at                1.55               
7 Nov: I predicted a new point hit, while people are cautious. Market closed at                1.065.
8 Nov:            Market closed at            1.045,            down from 1.065. The first fall, which i on 7 Nov predicted a favorable selling price from 1.065. After which 8 Nov afternoon will be hard to sell.
11 Nov & 12 Nov:      I warned of a fall with 13 Nov a shock going to happen despite many people are being too complacency & on high side. Market closed at      1.08.       
13 Nov:      I predicted a shock last week, highlighting a [Big Fall] on 11 Nov. Market experienced the biggest fall from      1.08 to 1.015, closed at 1.05.
There will be no further prediction of Noble Group.
With Effect from today, i will close my prediction for Noble Group.         
Due to time-consuming factor, i will not predict for months on day-to-day basis.         

The Beginning of Another Prediction (upon Du Shen Query)
18 Nov night (Noble closed 1.08 after extending gains for a few days)- I boldly predicted Noble Group's fall will be just a matter of time, a matter of months to come.
19 Nov- Market closed down to            1.065  from 1.08          (The first fall after few days continuous gain)
20 Nov- Market closed at 1.08.           
20 Nov closing: I predicted the range will fall within $1.075 and $1.09. As the fall is still far from months ahead.
21 Nov closing:        Market closed at 1.08.   (Market hit a low $1.07 & high of $1.09)
There will be no further prediction of Noble Group.. Enjoy
   

 
 
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    27-Nov-2013 17:44  
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MetalTrader      ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 00:53) Posted:

My forecast will be as a reference. You can treat the forecast as a joke, entertainment / a movie.
It is entirely up to you, at your own cost.




 
 
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    27-Nov-2013 17:21  
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