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one can at least be that is one who at least works for years and have enough capital to trade or where one can get the money to invest or trade.
there was a guy told me that he puts his income(once he made it from work) to stocks (that was last year), he said buy they would go up. So he is investing not trading, may be when it's high enough for him, he would sell.
This category of people would mainly choose the blue chips, at least there is handsome dividends. it's good, think puting $100,000. you get $5000 ayear.
I ever talked to a guy in HLF, he has almost $500,000 in just one counter....I didn't dare to chat with him much and very soon he swam to talk to his group of fish............what kind of fish is he? I have gotten the list already.
rotijai ( Date: 05-Apr-2011 09:39) Posted:
as far as i know, noone does full-time trading forever..
they learn and strike $$.. and quit the market for good
stock market is always a dangerous place. today u can earn $1M, tmr u can lose $2M..
Valtron ( Date: 05-Apr-2011 09:30) Posted:
| I mean by success as in, trading SG stock market full-time whereby you are not working for somebody and still manage to generate income from the stock market as a living.
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wew...same as here...10 entries, can loss 8 entries or less. problem is i loss much than win...siao
hotokee ( Date: 05-Apr-2011 09:39) Posted:
Few people make money in the stock market either as a full time trader or an investor in stocks. The people who make money are from the banks, stock brokerages and the hit and run insiders of the stock market, probably those who have connections in the financial authorities (no good to give specifics).
" Bankers" make because they have huge junk of money at hand and they can " co-operate" with one another to eat up the small fishes to share the pool amongst themselves. I will explain if you needed explanations.
" Stock brokerages" make because they not earn your commissions, but they know who is who and what is what, the going ons in the higher levels of corporate activities. On top of this, they know what you bought and what you shorted thus making a situation where you are in the bright side and they are in the dark side. They see you, but you don't see them.If you need an explanation, many people can tell you.
" Insiders and the connected" you know they are in the upper hand of the game, with what corporate programs, approvals, restrictions, suspension, etc., are about to take place they will quietly enter and exit the market and make the money out of you. Here no one needs an explanation, I am sure! Serious, so I won't advise one to really become a full timer or big time into stock investments if you are working class or have inherited a fortune from your parents or grandparents.
On the other hand, many times I also lost in the game, with say 10 entries, 8 failed more or less.
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as far as i know, noone does full-time trading forever..
they learn and strike $$.. and quit the market for good
stock market is always a dangerous place. today u can earn $1M, tmr u can lose $2M..
Valtron ( Date: 05-Apr-2011 09:30) Posted:
I mean by success as in, trading SG stock market full-time whereby you are not working for somebody and still manage to generate income from the stock market as a living.
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:51) Posted:
interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else |
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Few people make money in the stock market either as a full time trader or an investor in stocks. The people who make money are from the banks, stock brokerages and the hit and run insiders of the stock market, probably those who have connections in the financial authorities (no good to give specifics).
" Bankers" make because they have huge junk of money at hand and they can " co-operate" with one another to eat up the small fishes to share the pool amongst themselves. I will explain if you needed explanations.
" Stock brokerages" make because they not earn your commissions, but they know who is who and what is what, the going ons in the higher levels of corporate activities. On top of this, they know what you bought and what you shorted thus making a situation where you are in the bright side and they are in the dark side. They see you, but you don't see them.If you need an explanation, many people can tell you.
" Insiders and the connected" you know they are in the upper hand of the game, with what corporate programs, approvals, restrictions, suspension, etc., are about to take place they will quietly enter and exit the market and make the money out of you. Here no one needs an explanation, I am sure! Serious, so I won't advise one to really become a full timer or big time into stock investments if you are working class or have inherited a fortune from your parents or grandparents.
On the other hand, many times I also lost in the game, with say 10 entries, 8 failed more or less.
See!!! Still want to be a trader?
very difficult....
Valtron ( Date: 05-Apr-2011 09:30) Posted:
I mean by success as in, trading SG stock market full-time whereby you are not working for somebody and still manage to generate income from the stock market as a living.
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:51) Posted:
interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else |
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I mean by success as in, trading SG stock market full-time whereby you are not working for somebody and still manage to generate income from the stock market as a living.
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:51) Posted:
interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else ?
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
| Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks. |
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tat's y master ipunter always says..
"dont play play with stocks"
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 23:15) Posted:
hahaha...very interesting... if not losing is good enough...meaning " success" ? than one might as well don't trade stock market at all, because no trade will guarantee no losing means winning." ..is that something else definition of " sucess" ?
if one take trading as a hobby or past time, that's another story. over this post entry, Valtron is talking about full time trader...
Salute ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:58) Posted:
may be it means not losing money, like ipunter says no losing means winning.
many of us know that many people lost money in shares, so not losing is good enough..........kekeke!! |
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hahaha...very interesting... if not losing is good enough...meaning " success" ? than one might as well don't trade stock market at all, because no trade will guarantee no losing means winning." ..is that something else definition of " sucess" ?
if one take trading as a hobby or past time, that's another story. over this post entry, Valtron is talking about
full time trader...Salute ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:58) Posted:
may be it means not losing money, like ipunter says no losing means winning.
many of us know that many people lost money in shares, so not losing is good enough..........kekeke!!!
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:51) Posted:
interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else |
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may be it means not losing money, like ipunter says no losing means winning.
many of us know that many people lost money in shares, so not losing is good enough..........kekeke!!!
louis001 ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 22:51) Posted:
interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else ?
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
| Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks. |
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interesting question...how do you define " success" ? in terms of figures : X-percentage of profitable trades, consistent positive portfolio gain, or average X-thousands dollar income per month ? OR in terms of life style : big house, big car, regular overseas holiday... ? OR family fullfillment, happiness, freedom,,,,OR some/all of the above OR something else ?
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
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LOL!
rickyw ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 21:57) Posted:
me too, just starting become uncle to buy otah
cathylmg ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 21:26) Posted:
I'm only an auntie go to the market(stock) everyday hoping to make some kopi lui and buy some kueh kueh.... |
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me too, just starting become uncle to buy otah
cathylmg ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 21:26) Posted:
| I'm only an auntie go to the market(stock) everyday hoping to make some kopi lui and buy some kueh kueh.... |
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I'm only an auntie go to the market(stock) everyday hoping to make some kopi lui and buy some kueh kueh....
Very wisdom...we CANNOT become trader. Who said he can success become trader is big liar...
Success = Become Investor.
I hereby advice to all beginner, if u new think as investor as soon as possible. If u r in big losses now, please change ur trading style.
Don't spoil all ur mood to family because u loss money.
warrenbegger ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 19:23) Posted:
Bruce Lee philosophy about martial art. Stage 1, when people learn kungfu, it very easy. A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick. Stage 2, they start to get more knoweldge, learn more and more complex move. Now a punch is not a punch, a kick is not a kick anymore. Stage 3, after they learn all what they had to learn and get more exprience. They tell themself, it easy, a punch is a punch and a kick is just a kick, it so easy. Stage 4, only those who master and see beyond know this, so i tell also no use. (as i also havent reach this stage yet, it super hard, only those real master investor legend had reach this stage 4) In stock market many lose because they havent clear stage 1 and many still struck at stage 2, those lucky had reach stage 3 and the rare can reach stage 4. Dont worry, win or lose just be happy. Cause happy life and happy family is more important in life till your last breath. If u lucky can find a master that can teach u all the shortcuts and the right way, u can be success in less than 2 years. If u master it, give u 10,000 can turn into 100,000+. If u dont master it, give u 100,000+ can turn into 10,000---. All depend on U to chose what way U want :)
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
| Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks. |
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Bruce Lee philosophy about martial art. Stage 1, when people learn kungfu, it very easy. A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick. Stage 2, they start to get more knoweldge, learn more and more complex move. Now a punch is not a punch, a kick is not a kick anymore. Stage 3, after they learn all what they had to learn and get more exprience. They tell themself, it easy, a punch is a punch and a kick is just a kick, it so easy. Stage 4, only those who master and see beyond know this, so i tell also no use. (as i also havent reach this stage yet, it super hard, only those real master investor legend had reach this stage 4) In stock market many lose because they havent clear stage 1 and many still struck at stage 2, those lucky had reach stage 3 and the rare can reach stage 4. Dont worry, win or lose just be happy. Cause happy life and happy family is more important in life till your last breath. If u lucky can find a master that can teach u all the shortcuts and the right way, u can be success in less than 2 years. If u master it, give u 10,000 can turn into 100,000+. If u dont master it, give u 100,000+ can turn into 10,000---. All depend on U to chose what way U want :)
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
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valtron, pick up some trading books, read and develop the success in ur own way.
there's no way to share the so-called secrets of trading, everyone has his/her own way.
*i am not a full-time trader, still hoping to turn from a super failed trader to a neutral trader.
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 18:14) Posted:
So you used to be a full time trader and you failed?
Hulumas ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 18:02) Posted:
| 88% fail, I am afraid. Be an investor but not a trader please |
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Hulumas U back! I miss U!!!Hulumas ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 18:02) Posted:
88% fail, I am afraid. Be an investor but not a trader please!
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
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So you used to be a full time trader and you failed?
Hulumas ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 18:02) Posted:
88% fail, I am afraid. Be an investor but not a trader please!
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
| Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks. |
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88% fail, I am afraid. Be an investor but not a trader please!
Valtron ( Date: 04-Apr-2011 17:40) Posted:
| Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks. |
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Any full time trader in this forum trading SG stock market? Can share your success here? Thanks.
