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Earning money with Ocean King.Potential Upside hig

lets see if it rebounds. if 0.48 is almost cleared i think i wil dollar average first 600 lots.at 0.48

rest keep first.

target price 0.064 cents

Wow!!! U are supporting the price...

brunica ( Date: 10-Oct-2012 10:32) Posted:

Yeah i also this so that today as the lowest, i just bought 2 milllions shares

is this the bottom for oceanus?

looks like rebounding.

Lastly, this should be my final posting in this forum. Dont want to spend any more precious time here. Before signing it off, take care everyone! Remember to do your own analysis. Judge it yourself. People can lie but historical data dont lie.

Trade cautiously and Good Bye!!!
PS: Haiz maybe i should listen to my family and not to spend time writing my Oceanus analysis. Dont know if anyone appreciate it. Better do a stoploss now... haha :D

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 20:41) Posted:

haiz i have to retyped my message again... due to some upload error...

Hi all,

Sorry i had forgotten to add on 2 things in my previous extremely long posting as I was so busy just now and havent even taken my lunch until very late... haiz haiz .

My family pointed out to me that I could have use the time to write this analysis to analyse new potential stocks. However, I think that I should do some reflections. Thus, I still want to write my analysis as i cared and i dont want people buy stocks blindly and get influenced by other people. Juz like the mistake that i made by listening to some technical analysis news and not doing homework.

Point1:

In my lessons learnt section, I wrote that one should not go against the stock trend. This is actually technical analysis. In this case for Oceanus, it is downtrend for some time. I would like to further elaborate. How do we determine the trend? The best way is to look at the 20,50,100,200 days moving average MA. If uptrend, the candlesticks chart should be supported by the MA (use 20 or 50 days MA first in my opinion. Then 100, 200). We must learn how to ride the uptrend to gain profits. I understand this concept only by the hard way which is losing my hard-earned money.

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 14:32) Posted:

Hi Seniors,

Before i get started, I need to write some disclaimer -> Only to be used for educational purposes and for discussion purposes. Use it on your own risks. Dont have to follow me. I m not an expert because I m still learning.

This is my HUMBLE observations and analysis below.

PART 1: BUYING WITHOUT CONFIRMATION

Ok i will start off as being too trusting and lazy to find out facts. On 4oct morning, I read the OUB news about:

“DJ MARKET TALK: Charts Tip Oceanus At Buy, S$0.07 Target -UOB-KH

03 Oct 2012 16:41“

Being lazy to find out facts, I purchased 200lots immediately. I never doubt UOB technical analysis.

PART 2: REGRET

Out of my own curiosity, at the end of 4oct trading day, I opened up my technical analysis(TA) software. From the TA chart, I saw a black long candle and feel that something is not right. Black long candlestick mean strong selling. Ok I told myself that never mind since I m already in it. No point crying over split milk. I decided give some more time to check the market sentiment...

By the way, that night, I happened to surf upon this website below and found this shortist (a person who short sell stocks). I m not promoting him because I dont even know him.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2012/10/oceanus-40min-job.html

Oh no, on 5oct , despite the STI went up about 30pts, oceanus stock closed lower than the previous day closing price. On that day, it s also a black candle but a shorter one. I didnt sell my lots off because I dont like to do panic selling.

Just for your information, I also checked all the candlesticks about 5 trading days before the UOB analysis (which is on 3oct). The candlesticks on these 5 previous trading days formed Dojis with low volume which mean the opening and the closing price is the equal. This only signifies that the uncertainty in the market.

However, on 3oct, it s a long white candlestick with high volume. White long candlestick means strong buying. Thus the price definitely will be pushed up. One thing puzzles me is that this announcement was made 20minutes before the closing of market on 3oct, how come there were already so many buyers before this announcement??? Unless someone traded thousands of lots at 455pm last minute??? Can someone enlighten me on this?

PART 2: HOMEWORK TIME

2a) The Company

With full of suspicion, I decided to do homework over the weekend day and night. I checked up the company profile. The below are the some links that I found:

AGM part1

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story-archive-mainmenu-60/916-2012/5338-oceanus-

AGM part2

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story-archive-mainmenu-60/916-2012/5351-oceanus-agm-

This website shows u who are the people dumping oceanus stocks

http://www.insideralpha.com/reports/overview.php?sort=Date_of_filing& stockCode=579& chartDateRange=6m& insiderTypeSort=

Oceanus Annual Report announced this year aug2012

www.oceanus.com.sg/annualreport/Oceanus_Ar_2011.pdf

Read all SGX announcements

Besides the dumping of stocks by shareholders, take a look at ANNOUNCEMENT OF CESSATION AS NON-EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR(Lian Jian Hua)

Again, Disclaimer : I m not related to Lian Jian Hua and not related to anyone in Oceanus Group.

The above are not all the links that I found.

Just a note... Besides looking at the Singapore stock market, please go and take a look at the Taipei stock market for any news on the Oceanus group.

Just my observation, I put disclaimer too. Since there are so many Oceanus shares are issued into the stock market (including those earlier this year), I calculated the EPS (Earnings per share) and it is a negative value. I wont say more. Check how to calculate, see http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eps.asp

Anyway, just do your own homework and it will be more meaningful :)

Ok next, the technical analysis by UOB...

2b) Technical Analysis

Let s startoff by reading what the UOB analyst wrote:

*****************************************************

UOB KayHian technical analysis says. " The stock could potentially break above its mid Bollinger band with a base support at S$0.05. The Stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover and bullish divergences at its MACD indicator could be in play." It tips placing stops below S$0.045. The stock is up 2.0% at S$0.052 in volume of more than 3% of shares changing hands on the SGX. (leslie.shaffer@dowjones.com)

Before I say anything, I would like to put disclaimer again -> Just for education and discussion purposes. Use it on your own risks. We are not here to criticize and it s just exchanging of thoughts.

To be fair, we can only utilize the data (including the intra day data) before the UOB announcement,

From the Oceanus Technical Anaylsis Chart(Download it from any free TA software),

“The stock could potentially break above its mid Bollinger band with a base support at S$0.05.”
- Ok. This part, I agreed.
“The Stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover....”
- Let me explain the concept of stochastic bullish crossover and in order to have a buy signal, the %D must be below the Smoothed %D. Buy the stock when %D crosses up the Smoothed %D.
- From the chart on 3 oct, I observed that %D is already above the Smoothed %D and there is a possibility of crossing downwards. Thus, I dont see any bullishness at all.

**To know more in depth on how to calculate %D and smoothed %D, please surf the web.

“....and bullish divergences at its MACD indicator could be in play.”
- Yes. I saw 4red1green on the MacD Histogram. 4Red1green is a buy signal. There is a BUT.... the MacD line in the Oceanus TA chart is still in the negative region. If the momentum has changed, the MacD line should do a crossover from negative to positive.
- ok let s talk about MacD Histogram bullish divergences. It is only bullish when the stock price falls to lower low but the MacD histogram traces a higher low.
From the Oceanus TA chart, no matter how hard that I tried to draw in order to confirm bullishness, i still cannot. In the first place, the MacD histogram does not even trace a higher low (see the period from 3sept to 17sept).
In order to confirm that my drawing technique is correct, I traced back to the earlier data. The most recent bullish divergences that i saw is the period from 11may to ard 13jun.
“It tips placing stops below S$0.045.”
- I believed that there are many ways to calculate stoploss. In this case, I put 1 bid below the support (0.05) due to market uncertainty. Thus, my stoploss is S$0.049. Better exit earlier than sorry. We can always use the money for other counters.

“The stock is up 2.0% at S$0.052 in volume of more than 3% of shares changing hands on the SGX.”
- I guess only intra-day trader will know because i am not.

PART 3: HOPE ANALYSIS

On monday oct 8, STI went down.

Again, I used hope analysis on monday. I was hoping for a reversal from bear to bull. If i see a hammer candlestick(to indicate signals of bullishness) at the end of day, maybe tuesday is an upday for oceanus?? I hope and hope and hope... Because I also dont want to lose my hard-earned money...

Unfortunately, tuesday which is today, the stock is not moving up. Always at 0.049.

Ok I ll juz sell it off since it already hit my stoploss.

Please take note that in the coming month November (19nov i think), the oceanus group will announce its 3^rd quarter results. Dont expect good results because the company is still re-structuring. Thus, this stock MIGHT (I said might) go even lower. So why take the risk when u know u can exit earlier?

PART 4: LESSONS LEARNT

Never go against the stock trend. I know it s downtrend and yet i want to go against it.

Never totally believe in news. Do your own analysis.

Read the correct forum and not those punters.

PART 2: CONCLUSION

I didnt say that Oceanus Group is not a good company (my disclaimer here) but maybe not, it s not the correct time to enter yet. The company needs time.

There are a lot of major stakeholders in oceanus group.

Therefore, i believe that it will not closed down. Even if this big company really closed down (like the leiman brothers), it will not be so soon.

Thank you for reading my humble report. Please take note my disclaimer applies everywhere in this report.

Good day. Happy Trading.

I m a rational person and i m not here to argue. If I really want to argue with u, I wouldnt have spent so much time writing my analysis. I could have use the time doing my own stuff. My motive is to show the forumers some facts with concrete evidence and urge them to read up and do their own analysis. That s all.

JustinQuek ( Date: 10-Oct-2012 00:21) Posted:

Firstly, dont start an argument.

I have not quote your post and you are constantly quoting my words.

Is it you have no one else to talk to ?

Peace.

Warmest Regards,

Not your friend.

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 23:12) Posted:

Since u know the stock price might go down further, maybe u should stop asking people to buy. Just wait for opportunities.

Regards.

Firstly, dont start an argument.

I have not quote your post and you are constantly quoting my words.

Is it you have no one else to talk to ?

Peace.

Warmest Regards,

Not your friend.

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 23:12) Posted:

Since u know the stock price might go down further, maybe u should stop asking people to buy. Just wait for opportunities.

Regards.

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 22:18) Posted:

Hi think you can keep your shorts .might go down further.

This Yu De Hua Guy is not happy, and i think hes just gonna dump all his shares lol. Because of him im not doing dollar averaging at the moment. waiting for that big dump that might or may not happen.

Regardless

Margin call.Unrelentless dumping

are good situations to accumulate machiam like the 2008 crisis like that.

Since u know the stock price might go down further, maybe u should stop asking people to buy. Just wait for opportunities.

Regards.

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 22:18) Posted:

Hi think you can keep your shorts .might go down further.

This Yu De Hua Guy is not happy, and i think hes just gonna dump all his shares lol. Because of him im not doing dollar averaging at the moment. waiting for that big dump that might or may not happen.

Regardless

Margin call.Unrelentless dumping

are good situations to accumulate machiam like the 2008 crisis like that.

Hi Senior,

From the TA chart, this counter has been going downtrend since jan2010 as indicated by 20,50,100,200 days MA like a falling knife.

Regards.

Tomique ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 21:35) Posted:

Hi JustinQuek and hi Daraong, this stock has came down for a long time and from a high price to today's state. Occasionally some " retracements" were seen after heavy falls. I used to buy and sell on this counter. Presently I am short and waiting to buy back if and only if the price goes lower or edges up with good volumes. I reduced my risk by buying back some this afternoon at 49 cents because I am scared that sudden news might spring out and that could disastrous for my short positions. I don't really monitor the stock after selling since my target was short at 6.2 cents and it went there sometime ago. Honestly I don't like to short the market because it is not investment (more like betting), but because I bought high (7.5 cents) and have to sell more than I bought with borrowing shares to even out. I have made back the " losses" for the shares, and now some shorts have to be covered with more profits if around current level or lower. Unless it suddenly springs up, I will miss the remaining unrealized profits

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 21:01) Posted:

no idea why at this price still got so much unloading still being done. so many buy ups-so few sell downs.

How come got soo much shares to unload to break 0.05 support.Weird

Normal longist wouldn't unload at such low price at one go.

lol think from the annoucements he still have many million shares.

Seems that most retail are buying.

Many buyers vs 1 big seller + some shortists ...can win?

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 22:18) Posted:

Hi think you can keep your shorts .might go down further.

This Yu De Hua Guy is not happy, and i think hes just gonna dump all his shares lol. Because of him im not doing dollar averaging at the moment. waiting for that big dump that might or may not happen.

Regardless

Margin call.Unrelentless dumping

are good situations to accumulate machiam like the 2008 crisis like that.

Hi JustinQuek and hi Daraong, this stock has came down for a long time and from a high price to today's state. Occasionally some " retracements" were seen after heavy falls. I used to buy and sell on this counter. Presently I am short and waiting to buy back if and only if the price goes lower or edges up with good volumes. I reduced my risk by buying back some this afternoon at 49 cents because I am scared that sudden news might spring out and that could disastrous for my short positions. I don't really monitor the stock after selling since my target was short at 6.2 cents and it went there sometime ago. Honestly I don't like to short the market because it is not investment (more like betting), but because I bought high (7.5 cents) and have to sell more than I bought with borrowing shares to even out. I have made back the " losses" for the shares, and now some shorts have to be covered with more profits if around current level or lower. Unless it suddenly springs up, I will miss the remaining unrealized profits

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 21:01) Posted:

no idea why at this price still got so much unloading still being done. so many buy ups-so few sell downs.

How come got soo much shares to unload to break 0.05 support.Weird

Normal longist wouldn't unload at such low price at one go.

My boss unloaded all his holding today. Ask me to monitor n alert him when px go v deep. . . Dunno how much is v deep . . . Is it when ydh stop selling his share? I wonder:-Q

no idea why at this price still got so much unloading still being done. so many buy ups-so few sell downs.

How come got soo much shares to unload to break 0.05 support.Weird

Normal longist wouldn't unload at such low price at one go.

haiz i have to retyped my message again... due to some upload error...

Hi all,

Sorry i had forgotten to add on 2 things in my previous extremely long posting as I was so busy just now and havent even taken my lunch until very late... haiz haiz .

My family pointed out to me that I could have use the time to write this analysis to analyse new potential stocks. However, I think that I should do some reflections. Thus, I still want to write my analysis as i cared and i dont want people buy stocks blindly and get influenced by other people. Juz like the mistake that i made by listening to some technical analysis news and not doing homework.

Point1:

In my lessons learnt section, I wrote that one should not go against the stock trend. This is actually technical analysis. In this case for Oceanus, it is downtrend for some time. I would like to further elaborate. How do we determine the trend? The best way is to look at the 20,50,100,200 days moving average MA. If uptrend, the candlesticks chart should be supported by the MA (use 20 or 50 days MA first in my opinion. Then 100, 200). We must learn how to ride the uptrend to gain profits. I understand this concept only by the hard way which is losing my hard-earned money.

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 14:32) Posted:

Hi Seniors,

Before i get started, I need to write some disclaimer -> Only to be used for educational purposes and for discussion purposes. Use it on your own risks. Dont have to follow me. I m not an expert because I m still learning.

This is my HUMBLE observations and analysis below.

PART 1: BUYING WITHOUT CONFIRMATION

Ok i will start off as being too trusting and lazy to find out facts. On 4oct morning, I read the OUB news about:

“DJ MARKET TALK: Charts Tip Oceanus At Buy, S$0.07 Target -UOB-KH

03 Oct 2012 16:41“

Being lazy to find out facts, I purchased 200lots immediately. I never doubt UOB technical analysis.

PART 2: REGRET

Out of my own curiosity, at the end of 4oct trading day, I opened up my technical analysis(TA) software. From the TA chart, I saw a black long candle and feel that something is not right. Black long candlestick mean strong selling. Ok I told myself that never mind since I m already in it. No point crying over split milk. I decided give some more time to check the market sentiment...

By the way, that night, I happened to surf upon this website below and found this shortist (a person who short sell stocks). I m not promoting him because I dont even know him.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2012/10/oceanus-40min-job.html

Oh no, on 5oct , despite the STI went up about 30pts, oceanus stock closed lower than the previous day closing price. On that day, it s also a black candle but a shorter one. I didnt sell my lots off because I dont like to do panic selling.

Just for your information, I also checked all the candlesticks about 5 trading days before the UOB analysis (which is on 3oct). The candlesticks on these 5 previous trading days formed Dojis with low volume which mean the opening and the closing price is the equal. This only signifies that the uncertainty in the market.

However, on 3oct, it s a long white candlestick with high volume. White long candlestick means strong buying. Thus the price definitely will be pushed up. One thing puzzles me is that this announcement was made 20minutes before the closing of market on 3oct, how come there were already so many buyers before this announcement??? Unless someone traded thousands of lots at 455pm last minute??? Can someone enlighten me on this?

PART 2: HOMEWORK TIME

2a) The Company

With full of suspicion, I decided to do homework over the weekend day and night. I checked up the company profile. The below are the some links that I found:

AGM part1

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story-archive-mainmenu-60/916-2012/5338-oceanus-

AGM part2

http://www.nextinsight.net/index.php/story-archive-mainmenu-60/916-2012/5351-oceanus-agm-

This website shows u who are the people dumping oceanus stocks

http://www.insideralpha.com/reports/overview.php?sort=Date_of_filing& stockCode=579& chartDateRange=6m& insiderTypeSort=

Oceanus Annual Report announced this year aug2012

www.oceanus.com.sg/annualreport/Oceanus_Ar_2011.pdf

Read all SGX announcements

Besides the dumping of stocks by shareholders, take a look at ANNOUNCEMENT OF CESSATION AS NON-EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR(Lian Jian Hua)

Again, Disclaimer : I m not related to Lian Jian Hua and not related to anyone in Oceanus Group.

The above are not all the links that I found.

Just a note... Besides looking at the Singapore stock market, please go and take a look at the Taipei stock market for any news on the Oceanus group.

Just my observation, I put disclaimer too. Since there are so many Oceanus shares are issued into the stock market (including those earlier this year), I calculated the EPS (Earnings per share) and it is a negative value. I wont say more. Check how to calculate, see http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eps.asp

Anyway, just do your own homework and it will be more meaningful :)

Ok next, the technical analysis by UOB...

2b) Technical Analysis

Let s startoff by reading what the UOB analyst wrote:

*****************************************************

UOB KayHian technical analysis says. " The stock could potentially break above its mid Bollinger band with a base support at S$0.05. The Stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover and bullish divergences at its MACD indicator could be in play." It tips placing stops below S$0.045. The stock is up 2.0% at S$0.052 in volume of more than 3% of shares changing hands on the SGX. (leslie.shaffer@dowjones.com)

Before I say anything, I would like to put disclaimer again -> Just for education and discussion purposes. Use it on your own risks. We are not here to criticize and it s just exchanging of thoughts.

To be fair, we can only utilize the data (including the intra day data) before the UOB announcement,

From the Oceanus Technical Anaylsis Chart(Download it from any free TA software),

“The stock could potentially break above its mid Bollinger band with a base support at S$0.05.”
- Ok. This part, I agreed.
“The Stochastics indicator looks poised to form a bullish crossover....”
- Let me explain the concept of stochastic bullish crossover and in order to have a buy signal, the %D must be below the Smoothed %D. Buy the stock when %D crosses up the Smoothed %D.
- From the chart on 3 oct, I observed that %D is already above the Smoothed %D and there is a possibility of crossing downwards. Thus, I dont see any bullishness at all.

**To know more in depth on how to calculate %D and smoothed %D, please surf the web.

“....and bullish divergences at its MACD indicator could be in play.”
- Yes. I saw 4red1green on the MacD Histogram. 4Red1green is a buy signal. There is a BUT.... the MacD line in the Oceanus TA chart is still in the negative region. If the momentum has changed, the MacD line should do a crossover from negative to positive.
- ok let s talk about MacD Histogram bullish divergences. It is only bullish when the stock price falls to lower low but the MacD histogram traces a higher low.
From the Oceanus TA chart, no matter how hard that I tried to draw in order to confirm bullishness, i still cannot. In the first place, the MacD histogram does not even trace a higher low (see the period from 3sept to 17sept).
In order to confirm that my drawing technique is correct, I traced back to the earlier data. The most recent bullish divergences that i saw is the period from 11may to ard 13jun.
“It tips placing stops below S$0.045.”
- I believed that there are many ways to calculate stoploss. In this case, I put 1 bid below the support (0.05) due to market uncertainty. Thus, my stoploss is S$0.049. Better exit earlier than sorry. We can always use the money for other counters.

“The stock is up 2.0% at S$0.052 in volume of more than 3% of shares changing hands on the SGX.”
- I guess only intra-day trader will know because i am not.

PART 3: HOPE ANALYSIS

On monday oct 8, STI went down.

Again, I used hope analysis on monday. I was hoping for a reversal from bear to bull. If i see a hammer candlestick(to indicate signals of bullishness) at the end of day, maybe tuesday is an upday for oceanus?? I hope and hope and hope... Because I also dont want to lose my hard-earned money...

Unfortunately, tuesday which is today, the stock is not moving up. Always at 0.049.

Ok I ll juz sell it off since it already hit my stoploss.

Please take note that in the coming month November (19nov i think), the oceanus group will announce its 3^rd quarter results. Dont expect good results because the company is still re-structuring. Thus, this stock MIGHT (I said might) go even lower. So why take the risk when u know u can exit earlier?

PART 4: LESSONS LEARNT

Never go against the stock trend. I know it s downtrend and yet i want to go against it.

Never totally believe in news. Do your own analysis.

Read the correct forum and not those punters.

PART 2: CONCLUSION

I didnt say that Oceanus Group is not a good company (my disclaimer here) but maybe not, it s not the correct time to enter yet. The company needs time.

There are a lot of major stakeholders in oceanus group.

Therefore, i believe that it will not closed down. Even if this big company really closed down (like the leiman brothers), it will not be so soon.

Thank you for reading my humble report. Please take note my disclaimer applies everywhere in this report.

Good day. Happy Trading.

pennies (specifically those below 20cents) can only be played when daily average volume start to increase. you can throw fa out of the window for pennies. those gamblers that jump in are speculating (fast in n fast out)

i am in today at 49. looks good.

No comments because I didnt judge you but your previous forumers did. I dont even know you. I only joined Share Junction like few days back. If you want, go and ask them.

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 19:59) Posted:

But then you have asked a few questions and it would be rude not to reply you.

First of all No offence to you Mr Doraong. Doraong. if you msg me , i assume you are a friend and would like to hear my opinion. so i do spend time to think to reply and will spend efforts to reply you and yes i am dumb to have replied , such efforts does indeed bring misfortune to me. Im getting shot back instead.That is sad to me.

Qns :Remember your postings on CMZ and Ntegrator. Ans: really have you seen how many FA and TA analysis i made before both of them break out from 50s and 30s.

From my posts When i am successful you dont praise me. When i make too early an call . here comes all my history and only the bad parts of it.I didnt know that i didnt had the freedom of speech to share my opinion my analysis my comments as well as to make judgements. I didnt know that everytime i entered a stock and had some comments on it . It had to perform in the direction i expected immediately.

I also want to put your disclaimer again to avoid any sources of conlfict. Firstly, I apologized for being inaccurate.No offence to you , But i apologise if there is any. I think you are way smarter than me . and i agree. Conclusion i am dumb. I totally agree.Thanks for enlightenment. I make mistakes most of the time .yes. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

As for my judgement call on CMZ and Ntegrator.

When CMZ was in really low price . around 50 cents i started my posts to accumulate. When it rose. i sold.I even posted when i sold. it continue to went up after that and to drop again.

When Ntegrator was low price I started accumulating When it rose and people start buying , .I even posted when i sold.my last post was that it was a pump and dump.

it continue to went up after that and to drop again.

such that when a stock rise during my time ,no comments and when im out of the stock and after that some days or maybe months later it starts dropping even after i posted the stock drop. then i have some comments. Is it truly necessary that each day the stock that i posted a comment on in the past has to rise and keep rising even after i left .If such is the way , i should just buy one stock and how am i able to realize profits . Im sorry if theres anything offending. I am not trying to ruin my reputation.

Everything discussed this forum is just for discussion and educational purposes.

JustinQuek ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 19:21) Posted:

Firstly, thank you for enlightening my stupidity.

your welcome : )

I had a long reply typed out but ....simply

I'm dumb .agree.

Thank you

doraong ( Date: 09-Oct-2012 17:54) Posted:

hi all, I m just a junior member. I joined share junction because of Oceanus.

As for you, justin, no offence ok. My good friend used to be a regular here but he quitted this forum.

Ok this is what I heard from him but of course, I want to put disclaimer again to avoid any misunderstandings.

He told me that u used " FEEL" analysis to buy/sell stock. A lot of ppl lost money by listening to u. Just curious, did u really do your homework or make any FA or TA analysis?

Remember your postings on CMZ and Ntegrator. The rest, please go and check.

My disclaimer again: I do not know u. I am not judging you. I have no proof on the above and i m not trying ruin your reputation. I m juz sharing information with the rest for discussion. As for the rest, the judgement is yours.

Thank u.

But then you have asked a few questions and it would be rude not to reply you.

First of all No offence to you Mr Doraong. Doraong. if you msg me , i assume you are a friend and would like to hear my opinion. so i do spend time to think to reply and will spend efforts to reply you and yes i am dumb to have replied , such efforts does indeed bring misfortune to me. Im getting shot back instead.That is sad to me.

Qns :Remember your postings on CMZ and Ntegrator. Ans: really have you seen how many FA and TA analysis i made before both of them break out from 50s and 30s.

From my posts When i am successful you dont praise me. When i make too early an call . here comes all my history and only the bad parts of it.I didnt know that i didnt had the freedom of speech to share my opinion my analysis my comments as well as to make judgements. I didnt know that everytime i entered a stock and had some comments on it . It had to perform in the direction i expected immediately.

I also want to put your disclaimer again to avoid any sources of conlfict. Firstly, I apologized for being inaccurate.No offence to you , But i apologise if there is any. I think you are way smarter than me . and i agree. Conclusion i am dumb. I totally agree.Thanks for enlightenment. I make mistakes most of the time .yes. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

As for my judgement call on CMZ and Ntegrator.

When CMZ was in really low price . around 50 cents i started my posts to accumulate. When it rose. i sold.I even posted when i sold. it continue to went up after that and to drop again.

When Ntegrator was low price I started accumulating When it rose and people start buying , .I even posted when i sold.my last post was that it was a pump and dump.

it continue to went up after that and to drop again.

such that when a stock rise during my time ,no comments and when im out of the stock and after that some days or maybe months later it starts dropping even after i posted the stock drop. then i have some comments. Is it truly necessary that each day the stock that i posted a comment on in the past has to rise and keep rising even after i left .If such is the way , i should just buy one stock and how am i able to realize profits . Im sorry if theres anything offending. I am not trying to ruin my reputation.

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