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if i not wrong, margin for indo went up since rev dropped 1.8% while sales drop 3.8%.
this is probably a trade off for higher margins. their net profit increased, due to rising selling prices. as such, this industry is still quite good, if despite lower sales and rev, they still can increase profits even with higher op exp.
wilmar poor results, might be solely dependent on their untimely purchase of raw mat.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:31) Posted:
"This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume.
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hmm, this is a double edged news, their mistake in raw mat purchasing timing caused a loss.
however despite increased in sales volume, their margins dropped.
this is from a commodity counter bigger than AGR. if the bigger player is suffering from weakening margin, i think the smaller player will be more affected. got to see how much of the losses is attributed to the untimely purchase of raw mat.
margin loss and increasing sales volume should be a industry factor.
sorry i cant research on AGR now, but how was indo agri performance? what are their losses caused by.
personally if vested, i will take out 50% as 2/3 CPO counter report poorly, and this report gives a warning liao.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:27) Posted:
Wilmar said its oilseeds and grains business suffered a pretax loss of US$37.1 million ($47.8 million), despite a 28% rise in sales volume, due to "weaker margins and less timely purchases of raw materials”.
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Their sales snatched away by GAR... so GAR will gain more profit and Up... haha.. just kidding.
"This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume.
Indofood Agri-Resources downgraded to 'hold' by UOB Kay Hian |
Tags: Indofood Agri Resources | UOB KayHian Research
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WEDNESDAY, 03 NOVEMBER 2010 11:45 |
UOB Kay Hian in a Nov 1 research report says: "Indofood Agri Resources’ (IFAR) core net profit declined 20% y-o-y to Rp774 billion in 9M10. "This was mainly attributable to: (a) lower total sales by 3.8% y-o-y, (b) lower forex gain from Rp250.9 billion in 9M09 to Rp65.4 billion in 9M10 and (c) higher operating expenses. Quarterly net profit increased 26% q-o-q on higher crude palm oil (CPO) and palm kernal average selling prices (ASP). Revenue declined 1.8% y-o-y on lower sales volume. "We lower our earnings forecasts by 18.5% to Rp1,109 billion for 2010 and by 13.0% to Rp1,478 billion for 2011 to factor in lower cooking oil price assumption as well as sales volume due to stiff competition in the domestic cooking oil market. Fair price of $2.65 as we lowered our PE valuation to 13x 2012F PE. DOWNGRADE TO HOLD." |
Wilmar said its oilseeds and grains business suffered a pretax loss of US$37.1 million ($47.8 million), despite a 28% rise in sales volume, due to "weaker margins and less timely purchases of raw materials”.
Wilmar Q3 net falls 60%, shares drop 5% |
Tags: CSR | Golden Agri | Sime Darby | Sucrogen | Wilmar International
WRITTEN BY THOMSON REUTERS |
WEDNESDAY, 10 NOVEMBER 2010 11:48 |
Wilmar International <WLIL.SI>, the world’s biggest listed palm oil plantation firm, reported disappointing quarterly results, weighed by its oilseeds business, sending its shares down more than 5%.
“The results were well below our expectations, mainly because of the loss in the oilseeds segment,” said Ben Santoso, an analyst at DBS Vickers. “We’re putting our forecast and target price under review.” Wilmar said weak margins contributed to third quarter net profit falling 60% from a year ago, but said it was bullish about the future. “Despite the weak third quarter performance, the group remains positive on its long-term prospects," Chairman and CEO Kuok Khoon Hong said in a statement. Wilmar said its oilseeds and grains business suffered a pretax loss of US$37.1 million ($47.8 million), despite a 28% rise in sales volume, due to "weaker margins and less timely purchases of raw materials”. By 0320 GMT, Wilmar shares were 5.5% lower in a broader market <.FTSTI> down 0.7%. The shares are little changed so far this year, underperforming a 14% rise in the market. Wilmar, valued at US$34 billion, runs palm oil plantations in Indonesia and Malaysia and a number of processing facilities in China for various oils and grains. Wilmar earned US$259 million in July-September, down from US$653 million a year ago when it made an exceptional gain of US$167 million from the sale of new shares in its China unit. The result was lower than an average forecast of US$467 million from a Reuters survey of three analysts. Wilmar competes with Malaysia’s Sime Darby <SIME.KL> and Singapore’s Golden Agri <GAGR.SI> in palm oil. Wilmar, controlled by the family of Malaysian billionaire Robert Kuok, has diversified into sugar and earlier this week got approval from Australia’s Foreign Investment Review Board for its US$1.5 billion purchase of Sucrogen from CSR. |
U asking me or BT? I also holding at .775 leh
epliew ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:19) Posted:
what is your advice for cannot find who bought at 0.775 - cut lost or hold ?
firewood ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:16) Posted:
Report tmr at 1pm right? Heng got time to react. When i saw wilmar's report today i am also v worried. But from the movt today i think still quite ok la. Hope for the best.
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what is your advice for cannot find who bought at 0.775 - cut lost or hold ?
firewood ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:16) Posted:
Report tmr at 1pm right? Heng got time to react. When i saw wilmar's report today i am also v worried. But from the movt today i think still quite ok la. Hope for the best.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:09) Posted:
Given that Indo Agri and Wilmar both reported poor results.
We might have to be careful with Golden Agri.
Long term looks good, but short term may see a sell-off if GAR results are poor. |
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Report tmr at 1pm right? Heng got time to react.
When i saw wilmar's report today i am also v worried. But from the movt today i think still quite ok la. Hope for the best.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:09) Posted:
Given that Indo Agri and Wilmar both reported poor results.
We might have to be careful with Golden Agri.
Long term looks good, but short term may see a sell-off if GAR results are poor. |
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Hope this post reach those who are vested in GAR
I may reduce my holdings on this as well.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:09) Posted:
Given that Indo Agri and Wilmar both reported poor results.
We might have to be careful with Golden Agri.
Long term looks good, but short term may see a sell-off if GAR results are poor. |
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Hi guys,
This is the revised upgrades for Noble that my broker sent to me. Good news for those still holding.
Below are some upgrades
new target prev target
jp morgan 2.50 2.00
cimb 2.45 1.62
phillip 2.33 1.96
DMG 2.46 2.24
Standchart 2.50 2.50
Daiwa 2.54 2.21
I will be back soon to buy noble. I guess .
Given that Indo Agri and Wilmar both reported poor results.
We might have to be careful with Golden Agri.
Long term looks good, but short term may see a sell-off if GAR results are poor.
RESEARCH ALERT-DMG ups Noble target to S$2.46, keeps "buy"
10 Nov 2010 - 03:47
SINGAPORE, Nov 10 (Reuters) - DMG & Partners has raised its
target price for Singapore-listed commodity firm Noble Group
to S$2.46 from S$2.24 and kept its "buy" rating.
STATEMENT:
DMG & Partners noted that Noble's agriculture business was a
key profit driver for its third quarter earnings, helped by
higher margins for its grains division.
Noble reported on Tuesday its third quarter net profit rose
19 percent to $157.2 million. [ID:nSGE6A80G8]
The brokerage also said Noble's management continues to see
strong demand and prices for soybean in China.
"We believe the recent QE2 measures will strengthen liquidity
in the market and support demand for commodities, driving prices
up," said DMG in a report.
Shares of Noble rose 2.4 percent to S$2.18 at 0321 GMT and
have risen 3.7 percent so far this year.
(Reporting by Charmian Kok; Editing by Raju Gopalakrishnan)
((charmian.kok@thomsonreuters.com; +65 6403 5666; Reuters
Messaging: (charmian.kok.reuters.com@reuters.net)
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typo before 930am
Gaecia ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 12:04) Posted:
of course i didn't, tomato. At 2.22 i didn't had the presence of mind to pull out intraday chart indeed gsp way oversold below ma envelope. but even then i will not increase holdings at 2.22 becos i bought back before 930pm watever that was stopped out at the the same prx 2.28! i'm so silly. One thing i didnt place was stop loss this morning becos had i done so, it'll hit my 2nd stop loss and realised losses. Now am just glad it clawed back.
I still recall that selldown day vividly frm 2.23 all the way to 2.10 and closed at 2.13. Clow, bullish and bladez sold and bought back. It just keeps coming back huhh
fools_gold ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:52) Posted:
I regret not jumping in at 2.23 earlier. I ended up queueing at 2.21 upon seeing the support building at 2.20 and thinking that it will slide more but unfortunately, it bounced back at 2.22. Those who bought at 2.22-2.23 are indeed very lucky |
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of course i didn't, tomato. At 2.22 i didn't had the presence of mind to pull out intraday chart indeed gsp way oversold below ma envelope. but even then i will not increase holdings at 2.22 becos i bought back before 930pm watever that was stopped out at the the same prx 2.28! i'm so silly. One thing i didnt place was stop loss this morning becos had i done so, it'll hit my 2nd stop loss and realised losses. Now am just glad it clawed back.
I still recall that selldown day vividly frm 2.23 all the way to 2.10 and closed at 2.13. Clow, bullish and bladez sold and bought back. It just keeps coming back huhh
fools_gold ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:52) Posted:
I regret not jumping in at 2.23 earlier. I ended up queueing at 2.21 upon seeing the support building at 2.20 and thinking that it will slide more but unfortunately, it bounced back at 2.22. Those who bought at 2.22-2.23 are indeed very lucky.
icetomato ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:44) Posted:
GSP back up.
Who got it at 2.23????? Congratulations, can earn money already. I missed it this time round. Sigh.
Gaecia did you buy? |
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in Genting we trust...My portfolio is so focused on gambling right now......Genting, LVS, Melco...... haiz
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:58) Posted:
Ok got to go reshuffle my portfolio a little bit. GenSp will still be a substantial part of my portfolio.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:55) Posted:
Those who are betting good results for GenSp may probably be buying now |
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Ok got to go reshuffle my portfolio a little bit.
GenSp will still be a substantial part of my portfolio.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:55) Posted:
Those who are betting good results for GenSp may probably be buying now.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:54) Posted:
Ok yes, GenSp coming back |
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Those who are betting good results for GenSp may probably be buying now.
BullishTempo ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:54) Posted:
Ok yes, GenSp coming back
zentarius ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:50) Posted:
Nicely done!
I doubled my holding at 2.28 - when it was down to 2.23 i didnt dare to increase my exposure. So I am just glad it is climbing back up.
Just to share my opinion with you guys. I feel that regardless of the bad market sentiment we are experiencing, holding GSP can not go wrong. Q3 announcement is tomorrow and when it becomes cheap, people will quickly grab it. =) I still have a positive feeling over this.
Olam is not doing well though - but I believe it is short term.
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i agree as i also view that GSP has got the potential.
guess olam is dwn considering that the expected Q3 result isnt that good.
zentarius ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:50) Posted:
Nicely done!
I doubled my holding at 2.28 - when it was down to 2.23 i didnt dare to increase my exposure. So I am just glad it is climbing back up.
Just to share my opinion with you guys. I feel that regardless of the bad market sentiment we are experiencing, holding GSP can not go wrong. Q3 announcement is tomorrow and when it becomes cheap, people will quickly grab it. =) I still have a positive feeling over this.
Olam is not doing well though - but I believe it is short term.
icetomato ( Date: 10-Nov-2010 11:44) Posted:
GSP back up.
Who got it at 2.23????? Congratulations, can earn money already. I missed it this time round. Sigh.
Gaecia did you buy? |
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