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What about you ? Whats ur game plan for tmr ?
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:00) Posted:
tomato, you selling at 9am or keeping for 4Q ?
icetomato ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 20:56) Posted:
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My order to short@2.35 (the ceiling) was not done....
it only reached 2.33 ,,,
If done, it would have been another trade at a juicy peak... 
iPunter ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 09:33) Posted:
Maybe today it will hit the ceiling again...
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With F1, YOG and Universal Studios attractions,
profits are not rising faster than previous qtr ...
this is bad news... how to get to
$3? ...
they missed targets by 5 or 10% ah?
30m is net profit or revenue. if net profit then quite serious leh, if revenue...also quite serious. haha
One acc i already ask my remiser to help me sell at opening. Another one i am thinking to sell double or to keep. Cos i have a feeling tmr will plunge v fast but will recover back also. My feelings not accurate de ah
watermelon ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:44) Posted:
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I'm thinking of what px to sell , probably have to see how market go tomorrow liao !
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:35) Posted:
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BT! i not shorting la. very scary 1 leh.
my guts not strong enough, but like my willpower not strong enough, said i will not get vested this round, end up still go buy golden agri. basket, next time i must lock up all my money else where. so that i cannot go buy.
was so determined not to get vested, but end up still buy with all my savings on goldenagri Zzz
wonder if anybody tot of shortselling the genting call warrants tmr? very big risk..
I'm thinking of what px to sell , probably have to see how market go tomorrow liao !
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:35) Posted:
2.28
watermelon ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:32) Posted:
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like you , i also play contra , at what px u bought your gensp ? |
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2.28
watermelon ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:32) Posted:
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like you , i also play contra , at what px u bought your gensp ?
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:19) Posted:
3 in total haha In my point of view. Genting is still good for long term investment. But a lot of retailers will sell tmr and short sell. I am a contra player, i wont be holding on to all the shares, so i should be playing with the mkt direction right?
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Thanks alot for the information.
hesperus ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:32) Posted:
yes.. have done tt before..
ShareWithMe ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:29) Posted:
| If i understand you correctly, you are saying that if i Don't use the forced key, if open price is 2.25, but i have placed my sell price at 2.18, my stocks will still be sold at 2.25. Am i right to say that ? |
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like you , i also play contra , at what px u bought your gensp ?
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:19) Posted:
3 in total haha In my point of view. Genting is still good for long term investment. But a lot of retailers will sell tmr and short sell. I am a contra player, i wont be holding on to all the shares, so i should be playing with the mkt direction right?
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:17) Posted:
Ok so you have 2 separate accounts. |
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yes.. have done tt before..
ShareWithMe ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:29) Posted:
If i understand you correctly, you are saying that if i Don't use the forced key, if open price is 2.25, but i have placed my sell price at 2.18, my stocks will still be sold at 2.25. Am i right to say that ?
hesperus ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:25) Posted:
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If you dun use forced key, u can only submit the sell order at 2.18... if the opening price is less than 2.18, the sell order will not go through...
however, if the opening price is above 2.18, it will go through..
the best price at opening is determined by the market tmr.. you can only submit a sell price to tell the system how low you are willing to let go of your shares.. |
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If i understand you correctly, you are saying that if i Don't use the forced key, if open price is 2.25, but i have placed my sell price at 2.18, my stocks will still be sold at 2.25. Am i right to say that ?
hesperus ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:25) Posted:
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If you dun use forced key, u can only submit the sell order at 2.18... if the opening price is less than 2.18, the sell order will not go through...
however, if the opening price is above 2.18, it will go through..
the best price at opening is determined by the market tmr.. you can only submit a sell price to tell the system how low you are willing to let go of your shares..
ShareWithMe ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:21) Posted:
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Thanks Hesperus,
So the difference between force key is that it is able to widen your buy n sell limit as compared to normal buy and sell. So that's why u said 2.06 because that is 2.28 - 0.1 x 2.28 = 2.06 which is the lowest sell price for 'forced key'.
But if i do not use "force key" selling, will the system behave similarly like the "force key" where it will help you sell at the best price ? |
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My price? Or AK? His I think I read before is below $1 that kind right? Mine mainly 1.86. Only few lots that day contra 2.27..
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:14) Posted:
What price is that? 2.11 ? or 1.91
icetomato ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:13) Posted:
| MAYBE I will sell. But not sure what time. Keep so long already... Zzzz. If my price like AK will consider keeping some. Haha. |
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If you dun use forced key, u can only submit the sell order at 2.18... if the opening price is less than 2.18, the sell order will not go through...
however, if the opening price is above 2.18, it will go through..
the best price at opening is determined by the market tmr.. you can only submit a sell price to tell the system how low you are willing to let go of your shares..
ShareWithMe ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:21) Posted:
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Thanks Hesperus,
So the difference between force key is that it is able to widen your buy n sell limit as compared to normal buy and sell. So that's why u said 2.06 because that is 2.28 - 0.1 x 2.28 = 2.06 which is the lowest sell price for 'forced key'.
But if i do not use "force key" selling, will the system behave similarly like the "force key" where it will help you sell at the best price ?
hesperus ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:06) Posted:
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They will just deduct 25 poems rewards points for each usage.. no extra charges apart from the usual brokerage fees..
The diagram u showed earlier is just to tell u what are the market spreads like, i.e., how small the steps each share price can move..
like for Genting SP, the min bid spread is $0.01.. so the price can move 2.10, 2.11, 2.12, etc.. for GoldenAgr it is in steps of 0.005, i.e., it can move 0.765, 0.77, 0.775, 0.78, 0.785, etc..
normally for normal trading, u can use up to plus minus 10 bids... so at genting last done price at 2.28, u can either submit order to buy max at 2.38 or sell min at 2.18.. but if u use forced key, u can submit sell order for the (last done price - 10%) or (last done price +20%) |
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Thanks Hesperus,
So the difference between force key is that it is able to widen your buy n sell limit as compared to normal buy and sell. So that's why u said 2.06 because that is 2.28 - 0.1 x 2.28 = 2.06 which is the lowest sell price for 'forced key'.
But if i do not use "force key" selling, will the system behave similarly like the "force key" where it will help you sell at the best price ?
hesperus ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:06) Posted:
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They will just deduct 25 poems rewards points for each usage.. no extra charges apart from the usual brokerage fees..
The diagram u showed earlier is just to tell u what are the market spreads like, i.e., how small the steps each share price can move..
like for Genting SP, the min bid spread is $0.01.. so the price can move 2.10, 2.11, 2.12, etc.. for GoldenAgr it is in steps of 0.005, i.e., it can move 0.765, 0.77, 0.775, 0.78, 0.785, etc..
normally for normal trading, u can use up to plus minus 10 bids... so at genting last done price at 2.28, u can either submit order to buy max at 2.38 or sell min at 2.18.. but if u use forced key, u can submit sell order for the (last done price - 10%) or (last done price +20%)
ShareWithMe ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 20:56) Posted:
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Is there a cost for that ?
| Price Range |
Value of 1 bid |
| < $1.00 |
$0.005 |
| $1.00 to $9.99 |
$0.01 |
| >= $10 |
$0.02 |
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3 in total haha
In my point of view. Genting is still good for long term investment.
But a lot of retailers will sell tmr and short sell. I am a contra player, i wont be holding on to all the shares, so i should be playing with the mkt direction right?
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:17) Posted:
Ok so you have 2 separate accounts.
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:14) Posted:
Ermm, i got 45 lots in total but in 2 different trading So i am thnking of selling 25lot in opening, then sell another 40 lots from another acc in opening. Then see how market goes.
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Ok so you have 2 separate accounts.
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:14) Posted:
Ermm, i got 45 lots in total but in 2 different trading So i am thnking of selling 25lot in opening, then sell another 40 lots from another acc in opening. Then see how market goes.
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:11) Posted:
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What price is that? 2.11 ? or 1.91
icetomato ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:13) Posted:
MAYBE I will sell. But not sure what time. Keep so long already... Zzzz. If my price like AK will consider keeping some. Haha.
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:00) Posted:
| tomato, you selling at 9am or keeping for 4Q |
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Ermm, i got 45 lots in total but in 2 different trading
So i am thnking of selling 25lot in opening, then sell another 40 lots from another acc in opening.
Then see how market goes.
BullishTempo ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:11) Posted:
5 lots of GenSp?
firewood ( Date: 11-Nov-2010 21:06) Posted:
I also thining of double sell. But never try b4. a bit scared scared.
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