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elfinchilde
    10-Apr-2008 12:47  
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macquarie is the other BB in on this. not sure if they going long or short tho.

basically, small fries, stay out. not worth. i'm not even in, what does that tell ya.
 
 
henrytan
    10-Apr-2008 12:44  
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I heard from my broker JP Morgan and ML have been selling. Just be more careful.
 
 
elfinchilde
    10-Apr-2008 12:43  
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cyjjerry, you're getting very good. :) yeps. it's never on whether a stock "deserves" it or not; never on fundamentals--fundamentals only dictate which stock, in the dips of a bear market, gets picked up fastest.

But in a volatile trending market like this, it's pure technicals.

Always, we need to see what is, not what we want to see.

It's tied hands. There are BBs going long, BBs going short. That's what i mean, small fries, stay out. the couple of cents you can make is not worth the rollercoaster.

fyi for those still in the dark: Citi, merril and ubs were the ones selling cosco earlier in the day. Shortists got in later, about 2.97. But consistently, even without the shortists: the long term pic is distribution.

note: citi and merril have been selling off asia the past two days. which ties in with that the foreign banks need to report their results soon; so they'll sell off asia to beef up their profitbaility report. ie, when you read the ARs of these banks later, check to take out investment returns: you'll then see how much the subprime really lost for them, and the actual state of the global banks.
 

 
idesa168
    10-Apr-2008 12:41  
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At 2.86 can buy or not? There might be a little rebound if the plunge was overdone.
 
 
AK_Francis
    10-Apr-2008 12:37  
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AK kiahn leow, no grabbing power loh, now all the hot stuff in hands. Yesterday NUH nerves testing torturing, though doc in lab stated fine but yet to confirm  with the Ag Prof next appt. Nerves good ah, more prone to heart attack leh. Must press my heart this afternoon. Cheers.
 
 
cyjjerry85
    10-Apr-2008 12:36  
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i will have to agree with Elf that the MACD crossover will be in negative state today likely...technically that really isn't something pleasing to the eye

we may all noe its oversold...however those BB are darnz powerful and we can't fight them...we are bound to lose the fight 
 

 
investor38
    10-Apr-2008 12:35  
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Unless there are some skeletons that we don't know;  given the fundamentals of Cosco even after the most recent news;  once when everything is clear rebound will be very strong.  SGX should query the company regarding the big drop in its price.
 
 
freeme
    10-Apr-2008 12:34  
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Today max is about done.. I dun tink any surprise will come up even afternoon liao.

cyjjerry85      ( Date: 10-Apr-2008 12:28) Posted:

jux dun wish to have any heart attack later after lunch

 
 
hotstock
    10-Apr-2008 12:33  
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We are know that this giant index stock does not deserve this kind of wash-down. I suspect there are some shortist captializing on the news trying hard to push the price now. U can see that everytime it clear ground upwards, someone is there to push it down.

For me this price is good entry. Shall see better uptick later after lunch.

Pls go for a good lunch and hope to celebrate this evening. I wish it close at 3.00 at least... Possible?
 
 
elfinchilde
    10-Apr-2008 12:32  
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sigh. BBs at play, and i mean VERY big BBs. check your counterparty; it isn't just local.

small fries stay out; don't get caught in crossfire. even if it rebounds a bit later, it's a dead cat's bounce in long term prospect (3 mth): remember yzj? cosco is just starting its MACD downtrend.

never play a short up on a long down.

follow the trend. there are better counters to play.
 

 
cyjjerry85
    10-Apr-2008 12:28  
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jux dun wish to have any heart attack later after lunch
 
 
investor38
    10-Apr-2008 12:25  
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Fear vs Greed.  FEAR IS THE PREDOMINANT EMOTION NOW!!!  Selling seemed overdone over the past two days factoring in the news.  
 
 
hotstock
    10-Apr-2008 12:22  
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Just to share from CIMB

Cosco Corporation (S$3.36) - The good and the bad

Won contracts worth S$402.4m; one existing contract lapsed

Cosco announced that it has won contracts worth US$292.3m (S$402.4m), comprising a

US$131.8m hull for a semi-submersible production unit and two 59,000dwt shuttle

tankers worth US$160.5m.

Semi-submersible hull priced in Rmb

Nantong yard in 2010. The contract is priced at Rmb923m with a US owner at prevailing

exchange rates on the payment date. A US$3m deposit has been received for the

project.. The project will be carried out at Cosco?s

Shuttle tankers contracted by Danish owner.

101.2m euros will also be built at Nantong for delivery in Jun and Dec 2011. This is the

second contract won by Cosco, following two 10,500 dwt shuttle tankers awarded in Feb

08. The customer has agreed to pay 65% of the contract value as first instalment.The two shuttle tankers priced at

GM5000 semi-submersible rig hull lapsed.

proceeding with a US$202m contract to build a GM5000 for Norwegian owner, Red Flag

A.S, awarded in May 07. This is because a requisite deposit from the customer before

the commencement of work has not been paid. The project was originally scheduled for

delivery in 4Q09. The group has not started any work or incurred any costs. We suspect

the failure of deposit payment could be caused by the credit crunch and failure to secure

financing by the customer.Cosco also announced that it will not be

Mitigation.

However, we highlight that: 1) the payment of deposits for all the other offshore projects

is on course, including a GM4000 (US$200m) for delivery in 4Q09; 2) no other contract

has been signed with Red Flag; 3) deposits for 80% of the shipbuilding contracts have

been received; and 4) this is the first incident of order cancellation.This negative news could shake investors? confidence in the near term.

Earnings estimates unchanged

unchanged, taking into account the new contracts and lapse of the GM5000. We

maintain our new-orders assumption of US$4.5bn for FY08-09 and earnings estimates.. Our order book assumption of US$6.5bn remains

 
 
OneSharer
    10-Apr-2008 12:18  
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AK:  Thank for the clarification. Aiyah, fox seems to be lurking everywhere in the mkt.
Just want to grab a good bargain and stay alive.   



AK_Francis      ( Date: 10-Apr-2008 11:45) Posted:



The early one worth 200m project not proceeding, but they just secured a 292m offshore tanker project. Today BT news stated as well. Careful leow, the Chinese wise saying " Fox comming" he he. Means trade with care.  

 
 
cyjjerry85
    10-Apr-2008 12:16  
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i agree too...overdoing it...however the market is overly too powerful now

Capitalization      ( Date: 10-Apr-2008 12:11) Posted:

A bit overdoing it!

 

 
Capitalization
    10-Apr-2008 12:11  
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A bit overdoing it!
 
 
hotstock
    10-Apr-2008 12:10  
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Just have this idea. If someone rich enough to buy 3000 lots now. This will push the price from 2.87 to 3.00.

 

Is there such powerful person here
 
 
freeme
    10-Apr-2008 12:08  
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Normally when a stock freefall too power, sure got ppl clarifying issue to calm the investors. Now the fear is investors worry on the possible cancellation of other projects.

2.8 is another strong support, if this break then will see a very low cosco liao!
 
 
Fairygal
    10-Apr-2008 12:05  
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Q at 2.80, see if can reach this level or not.
 
 
OneSharer
    10-Apr-2008 12:03  
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Hee, hee.  Even the Shortist King is vested.  Isn't that a vote of confidence?!  

nickyng      ( Date: 10-Apr-2008 11:45) Posted:



hee...vested at 2.87 x5 hee...

cheers !!! :D

 
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