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Raptor22
    12-Nov-2010 19:50  
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Yeah take on the Dark Side and win. lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ljyoox6o&feature=related 



cannotfind      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:41) Posted:

Gaecia... no... told you never tell... that is why it's not a good news... 

you very the bad.... ask IceTomato to lose more... We must combine our resources to win GEN



Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:36) Posted:

tomato, u at RSW to celebrate ur earnings & show hand huhh?  Okay...then donate bit more to genting can or not? that company needs your donation kekeke.

btw still remember cannotfind's 'sum yee lok' hearsay frm rsw's vvip, can u go scold him? wat the bluff...



 
 
cannotfind
    12-Nov-2010 19:45  
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Hahhahahaha..... Let's celebrate "Sorrow Hour" at Little India.



Raptor22      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:31) Posted:



Hey Guys, 

Whats happened to "Happy Hour" today?  

Come on........ what's done is done. Can still fight another day.

Think AK should be at the Bt Panjuang coffee shop with  his Carlsberg. Should be safe now since the police rounded up the gang memebers. 

 
 
cannotfind
    12-Nov-2010 19:43  
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omg... I am MASTER now!!! What is the highest ranking one can get? GOD?
 

 
cannotfind
    12-Nov-2010 19:41  
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Gaecia... no... told you never tell... that is why it's not a good news... 

you very the bad.... ask IceTomato to lose more... We must combine our resources to win GEN



Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:36) Posted:

tomato, u at RSW to celebrate ur earnings & show hand huhh?  Okay...then donate bit more to genting can or not? that company needs your donation kekeke.

btw still remember cannotfind's 'sum yee lok' hearsay frm rsw's vvip, can u go scold him? wat the bluff...



cannotfind      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:26) Posted:

wow.. you going to RWS to scold Tan Sri Lim


 
 
Gaecia
    12-Nov-2010 19:36  
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tomato, u at RSW to celebrate ur earnings & show hand huhh?  Okay...then donate bit more to genting can or not? that company needs your donation kekeke.

btw still remember cannotfind's 'sum yee lok' hearsay frm rsw's vvip, can u go scold him? wat the bluff...



cannotfind      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:26) Posted:

wow.. you going to RWS to scold Tan Sri Lim?

icetomato      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:18) Posted:

Haha ya Gaecia, I figured it out just now awhile after I posted. Thanks for pointing out. I'm at RWS now! So many people.


 
 
Icymilo
    12-Nov-2010 19:31  
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Should be good, us futures not so red now.

Hope tonight US up, Monday China garment confirm no raise in interest for near term to kick off some rebound in the region



firewood      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:27) Posted:

Sound like good news :)


Icymilo      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:26) Posted:

China sees positive results at G20 Seoul summit



SEOUL, Nov. 12 (Xinhua) -- The Group of 20 (G20) summit that ended here Friday has achieved positive results with concerted efforts from all participating nations, Chinese delegation spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said.

Ma said that the world economy is gradually recovering, but uncertainties still remain, and that the Seoul summit witnessed the framework of G20 shifting its focus from emergency response to long-term economic governance.

Firstly, all member countries vowed to strengthen the role of the G20, and properly deal with the new risks and new challenges in the international financial sector so as to jointly boost the positive, sustainable and balanced growth of the global economy, Ma said.

Secondly, G20 leaders agreed to further promote reform of international financial institutions, and confirmed the 6-percent shift of quota shares to emerging economies in the International Monetary Fund, he said.

Thirdly, G20 leaders for the first time listed the issue of development as a major topic, and the summit endorsed the Multi-year Action Plan on Development over the medium term, Ma said.

And fourthly, based on the achievements made in previous summits, G20 leaders pledged continuous efforts to intensify financial regulation and combat trade-protectionism, and put forward a series of new measures and steps which will be conducive to the long-term healthy and steady development of the world economy, he said.


 

 
Raptor22
    12-Nov-2010 19:31  
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Hey Guys, 

Whats happened to "Happy Hour" today?  

Come on........ what's done is done. Can still fight another day.

Think AK should be at the Bt Panjuang coffee shop with  his Carlsberg. Should be safe now since the police rounded up the gang memebers. 
 
 
firewood
    12-Nov-2010 19:27  
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Sound like good news :)


Icymilo      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:26) Posted:

China sees positive results at G20 Seoul summit



SEOUL, Nov. 12 (Xinhua) -- The Group of 20 (G20) summit that ended here Friday has achieved positive results with concerted efforts from all participating nations, Chinese delegation spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said.

Ma said that the world economy is gradually recovering, but uncertainties still remain, and that the Seoul summit witnessed the framework of G20 shifting its focus from emergency response to long-term economic governance.

Firstly, all member countries vowed to strengthen the role of the G20, and properly deal with the new risks and new challenges in the international financial sector so as to jointly boost the positive, sustainable and balanced growth of the global economy, Ma said.

Secondly, G20 leaders agreed to further promote reform of international financial institutions, and confirmed the 6-percent shift of quota shares to emerging economies in the International Monetary Fund, he said.

Thirdly, G20 leaders for the first time listed the issue of development as a major topic, and the summit endorsed the Multi-year Action Plan on Development over the medium term, Ma said.

And fourthly, based on the achievements made in previous summits, G20 leaders pledged continuous efforts to intensify financial regulation and combat trade-protectionism, and put forward a series of new measures and steps which will be conducive to the long-term healthy and steady development of the world economy, he said.

 
 
cannotfind
    12-Nov-2010 19:26  
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wow.. you going to RWS to scold Tan Sri Lim?

icetomato      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:18) Posted:

Haha ya Gaecia, I figured it out just now awhile after I posted. Thanks for pointing out. I'm at RWS now! So many people.

Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:31) Posted:

Fools meant Gar la, sense his tone. ;o  since when has Olam been up for red hot sale at 0.775..


 
 
Icymilo
    12-Nov-2010 19:26  
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China sees positive results at G20 Seoul summit



SEOUL, Nov. 12 (Xinhua) -- The Group of 20 (G20) summit that ended here Friday has achieved positive results with concerted efforts from all participating nations, Chinese delegation spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said.

Ma said that the world economy is gradually recovering, but uncertainties still remain, and that the Seoul summit witnessed the framework of G20 shifting its focus from emergency response to long-term economic governance.

Firstly, all member countries vowed to strengthen the role of the G20, and properly deal with the new risks and new challenges in the international financial sector so as to jointly boost the positive, sustainable and balanced growth of the global economy, Ma said.

Secondly, G20 leaders agreed to further promote reform of international financial institutions, and confirmed the 6-percent shift of quota shares to emerging economies in the International Monetary Fund, he said.

Thirdly, G20 leaders for the first time listed the issue of development as a major topic, and the summit endorsed the Multi-year Action Plan on Development over the medium term, Ma said.

And fourthly, based on the achievements made in previous summits, G20 leaders pledged continuous efforts to intensify financial regulation and combat trade-protectionism, and put forward a series of new measures and steps which will be conducive to the long-term healthy and steady development of the world economy, he said.
 

 
icetomato
    12-Nov-2010 19:18  
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Haha ya Gaecia, I figured it out just now awhile after I posted. Thanks for pointing out. I'm at RWS now! So many people.

Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:31) Posted:

Fools meant Gar la, sense his tone. ;o  since when has Olam been up for red hot sale at 0.775...

icetomato      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 17:27) Posted:

OLAM 0.775!!!!!? Kill me!!


 
 
firewood
    12-Nov-2010 19:17  
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I am in the same position as u :(

Paper loss more than 20k

Mon will be a better day!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers!!!!!!!!!



Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:16) Posted:

Yes we shall wriggle ourselves out of the twists and turns. Okay gar u look very promising on charts to turn up a flag on Mon, i will sell u off otherwise i will accum at new lows to sell u off!  Lol

firewood      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:07) Posted:



Amazing! look at dow futures and Europe!

Mon will be a better day :)

 




 


 
 
firewood
    12-Nov-2010 19:16  
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Yup using iphone :)

BT enjoy your holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!



BullishTempo      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:10) Posted:

Maybe I can check on you guys and gals using iPhone?

firewood      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:07) Posted:



Amazing! look at dow futures and Europe!

Mon will be a better day :)

 




 


 
 
Gaecia
    12-Nov-2010 19:16  
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Yes we shall wriggle ourselves out of the twists and turns. Okay gar u look very promising on charts to turn up a flag on Mon, i will sell u off otherwise i will accum at new lows to sell u off!  Lol

firewood      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:07) Posted:



Amazing! look at dow futures and Europe!

Mon will be a better day :)

 




 

 
 
BullishTempo
    12-Nov-2010 19:15  
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Thanks Gaecia, will miss your witty comments too.

I will be back in 2 weeks and we will face the battles together again.

I believe we have learnt much during 3rd quarter and we will be better prepared for Q4.

In the meantime, enjoy your weekend and take care ! 
 

 
Gaecia
    12-Nov-2010 19:11  
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yup still here, going off in awhile too. Bullish u hav a gd break n recharge, will miss u ard.

How i wish can be like u take time off frm the exchange screen, come Mon still needs to combat my way out of Gar in +ve territory and gensp will take patience. No more panic selling. Can't clear my last 2.28 bought in haste after wed's stop limit was hit (but that also helped to realise profits bot in at 2.01). Frankly yesterday when gsp clawed back to 2.32 why had i hesitated to sell out to cut risk before earnings whc i did on Gar but was running late on meetg parents outside so i let the position run. Didn't short on cfd at yesterday's close, this morning also do not short with huge gap down.

When i'm on Nyse i always make it a point to avoid earnings season to err on the side of caution. geesh wat hav i gotten myself into.   



BullishTempo      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:44) Posted:

You still here?

Waiting for friends to knock off.

Anyway here is the explanation.

1) You have 100 lots of GenSp of long position 1 day before announcement.

2) You hedge 100 lots of GenSp at 4.45pm.

3) Market closes.

4) Next day morning opens at 9am.

5) Price gaps-up 10 cents upon good results.

6) Short position lose money.

7) Long position makes money.

8) Close out short position.

9) Take the ride up for long position.

10) You lose nothing except for commission. 



Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:39) Posted:

There a loophole smwhere also helps to mitigate risk, if u hedge short on cfd before earnings announcement that's typically after lunch break or at mrkt close. If earnings are upbeat, you can't close or cancel the short hedge when mrkt's still closed only when market reopens. When it gaps up the short order will still incur losses that has to be closed out instantly.



 
 
BullishTempo
    12-Nov-2010 19:10  
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Maybe I can check on you guys and gals using iPhone?

firewood      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:07) Posted:



Amazing! look at dow futures and Europe!

Mon will be a better day :)

 




 

 
 
BullishTempo
    12-Nov-2010 19:08  
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For today, short position gains 15 cents. Long position loses 15 cents.

Overall, gain nothing, lose nothing.

Except for commission. 

Hedging just means you don't make but you don't lose. Your capital just remains the same. 



pharoah88      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 19:05) Posted:

BT

When  price  GAP  UP  10 cents,  the short  position  loses  10 cents as well ?


For today,  it  falls  15 cents,  the  short position simply gains  15 cents to  cover the losses  of  Long  position ?



BullishTempo      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:44) Posted:

You still here?

Waiting for friends to knock off.

Anyway here is the explanation.

1) You have 100 lots of GenSp of long position 1 day before announcement.

2) You hedge 100 lots of GenSp at 4.45pm.

3) Market closes.

4) Next day morning opens at 9am.

5) Price gaps-up 10 cents upon good results.

6) Short position lose money.

7) Long position makes money.

8) Close out short position.

9) Take the ride up for long position.

10) You lose nothing except for commission. 



 
 
firewood
    12-Nov-2010 19:07  
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Amazing! look at dow futures and Europe!

Mon will be a better day :)

 




 
 
 
epliew
    12-Nov-2010 19:06  
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yes u are right !

Gaecia      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 18:31) Posted:

Fools meant Gar la, sense his tone. ;o  since when has Olam been up for red hot sale at 0.775...

icetomato      ( Date: 12-Nov-2010 17:27) Posted:

OLAM 0.775!!!!!? Kill me!!


 
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