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epliew
    15-Nov-2010 08:39  
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CDF or short report last friday that the Genting SP has many naked short before the announcement hence SGX may need to buy back in huge volume ?  what is your take....

 

pushing up the price today ?



iPunter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 12:38) Posted:

No matter if it's naked short or CDF short,

    if you are not already good in playing long,

      you should not go naked and play short...

         simply because you are not ready.

Look at it this way...

        If you are not able to slide down without falling at the playground,

            you should not go bungee-jumping. You must progress step by step... Smiley 



butter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 11:17) Posted:



thanks for the info.

 but from wat i know shorting hav to be done within the same day rite? so unless there is cfd, trade settlement can be done within t+3?


 
 
bladez87
    15-Nov-2010 08:39  
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who is she?

epliew      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 08:32) Posted:

ha ha ... she is born in 1987, old enough to be AK daughter ?

bladez87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 15:34) Posted:

AK is a who. not a what.


 
 
epliew
    15-Nov-2010 08:37  
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just a question on gradual..... how does the market take it ?  for example if I tell you that your result is gradual improvement..... you feel good or bad ?

iApple      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 23:32) Posted:



for ppl missed the news:

1st Question:  Stamp duty?
China government did not raise the stamp duty


2nd question: will China raise interest rate?

unlikely. Why? unless it wants to kill its enconomy.

The Financial Times reports traders fear Beijing could raise China’s interest rates this weekend in order curb inflation that hit a two-year high last month. The country has also curbed foreign real estate speculation.

But a shift to greater consumption on the part of China, presumably through a stronger currency, is exactly the medicine everyone’s calling for. T. Rowe Price chief economist Alan Levinson this afternoon writes that current-account surplus countries, like China, and other emerging market economies, must shift to greater internal consumption. But it won’t be easy:

Export-oriented emerging economies will have to boost domestic demand so as to reduce  domestic saving and current account surpluses. In China, the exemplar for this group, the magnitude of the shifts required, and the imperative to maintain roughly 8% growth during the transition, dictates that the inter-sector reorientation of the Chinese economy will be gradual. Similarly, interest in financial stability limits the pace at which policy makers can increase the degree of market determination in the renminbi

Sleep tight everyone! tml is another day.


 

 
epliew
    15-Nov-2010 08:32  
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ha ha ... she is born in 1987, old enough to be AK daughter ?

bladez87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 15:34) Posted:

AK is a who. not a what.


iknownothing      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 12:27) Posted:

whats AK?? ..i not enough skill to be sifu..my fundamental damm chui..TA can share via posting..i only earn decent amount..not trading daily.

u should find someone who is full timer trader/reminsier whom did really good. be sincere to them and they will teach.

Smiley

Cheers!



 
 
Icymilo
    15-Nov-2010 08:14  
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On the docket (US)


Monday: Economists expect the Commerce Department to report that retail sales rose 0.7% in October, after a 0.6% rise the previous month, according to consensus estimates gathered by Briefing.com. Sales excluding volatile autos are expected to have ticked up 0.3%.

Home improvement giant Lowe's (LOW, Fortune 500) is expected to report earnings of 30 cents per share, up from 24 cents per share a year ago.

The Empire Manufacturing survey is also due before the start of trading. The regional reading on manufacturing is forecast to have slipped to 11.7 in November from 15.73 in October.

The September reading on business inventories, due from the government later in the morning, is likely to show an increase of 0.9%.

After the close, department store Nordstrom (JWN, Fortune 500) will report earnings.

Tuesday: The Producer Price Index, a measure of wholesale inflation, is due out from the Commerce Department before the opening bell. The index is expected to have edged up 0.8% in October after rising 0.4% in September. The so-called core PPI, which strips out volatile food and energy prices, is expected to have risen 0.1% after increasing by the same amount in the previous month.

Government data on industrial production and capacity utilization for October are also due before the market opens.

Wal-Mart Stores (WMT, Fortune 500) reports results before the start of trading. The Dow component is expected to have earned 90 cents per share, up from 84 cents a year ago, according to forecasts from analysts polled by Thomson Reuters.

Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF), Home Depot (HD, Fortune 500) and Saks Incorporated (SKS) are also on tap to post financial results.

After the opening bell, the National Association of Homebuilders is scheduled to release its housing market index for October. The figure is expected to edge down to 15.0 from 16.0 in September.

Wednesday: The Commerce Department releases the Consumer Price Index, a measure of consumer inflation, in the morning. CPI is expected to have increased 0.3% in October after climbing 0.1% the previous month. Core CPI is expected to have inched up 0.1%, after a flat reading in September.

Housing starts are expected to have decreased to a 600,000 annual unit rate in October from a 610,000 unit annual rate in September. Building permits are expected to have risen to a 565,000 annual rate from a 539,000 annual unit rate in September.

Also before the bell, discount retailer Target (TGT, Fortune 500) is forecast to have booked earnings of 68 cents per share, up from 58 cents a year ago.

After the market closes, analysts are looking for Applied Materials (AMAT, Fortune 500) to reports earnings of 31 cents per share, compared to 11 cents a year ago.

Thursday: The Department of Labor releases the weekly jobless claims report in the morning. The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment last week is forecast to inch higher to 442,000 from 435,000 in the previous week.

Continuing claims -- a measure of Americans who have been receiving benefits for a week or more -- is expected to hold steady at around 4.30 million, the same as in the previous week.

Analysts expect office supply giant Staples earned 40 cents per share last quarter, up slightly from 39 cents a year earlier.

The Philadelphia Fed index, another regional reading on manufacturing, is expected to have improved to 4.5 in November from 1.0 in October.

The index of leading economic indicators is expected to have risen 0.6% in October after rising 0.3% the previous month.

After the close, Dell (DELL, Fortune 500) is expected to post earnings of 32 cents per share, up from 23 cents per share a year earlier.

Friday: There are no market-moving economic or corporate events expected on Friday

 
 
Icymilo
    15-Nov-2010 07:16  
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Sorry Iapple, yes is GM

iApple      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 09:16) Posted:

GE ipo? or GM motor IPO?
GM motor is a phoenix raised from the ashes...

GM latest earning: Best quarter in 11 years
http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/10/news/companies/gm_earnings/index.htm

GM ipo news:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/demand-for-gm-ipo-was-the-price-set-too-low/19715450/

 



Icymilo      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 06:48) Posted:

I think he could be referring to GE IPO next week, likely to boost the US index, expected price to go up as demand at current moment is higher than supply.

market speculation price is already 2-3 dollars higher than IPO.



 

 
cannotfind
    15-Nov-2010 00:20  
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Everyone ready for tomorrow's Black Rain?
 
 
iApple
    14-Nov-2010 23:32  
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for ppl missed the news:

1st Question:  Stamp duty?
China government did not raise the stamp duty


2nd question: will China raise interest rate?

unlikely. Why? unless it wants to kill its enconomy.

The Financial Times reports traders fear Beijing could raise China’s interest rates this weekend in order curb inflation that hit a two-year high last month. The country has also curbed foreign real estate speculation.

But a shift to greater consumption on the part of China, presumably through a stronger currency, is exactly the medicine everyone’s calling for. T. Rowe Price chief economist Alan Levinson this afternoon writes that current-account surplus countries, like China, and other emerging market economies, must shift to greater internal consumption. But it won’t be easy:

Export-oriented emerging economies will have to boost domestic demand so as to reduce  domestic saving and current account surpluses. In China, the exemplar for this group, the magnitude of the shifts required, and the imperative to maintain roughly 8% growth during the transition, dictates that the inter-sector reorientation of the Chinese economy will be gradual. Similarly, interest in financial stability limits the pace at which policy makers can increase the degree of market determination in the renminbi

Sleep tight everyone! tml is another day.

 
 
james87
    14-Nov-2010 16:21  
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thanks blade....
 
 
bladez87
    14-Nov-2010 16:19  
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net loss of 36000

compared to previous year of (176000)

 

net loss reduced but is not from operation, meaning not stable. as such does not mean that company is improving.

loss reduction mainly due to revaluation of vessals.




james87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 16:14) Posted:


 

 
james87
    14-Nov-2010 16:14  
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iknownothing
    14-Nov-2010 16:10  
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Alamak see wrongly lol hmm

bladez87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 15:34) Posted:

AK is a who. not a what.


iknownothing      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 12:27) Posted:

whats AK?? ..i not enough skill to be sifu..my fundamental damm chui..TA can share via posting..i only earn decent amount..not trading daily.

u should find someone who is full timer trader/reminsier whom did really good. be sincere to them and they will teach.

Smiley

Cheers!



 
 
bladez87
    14-Nov-2010 15:34  
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AK is a who. not a what.


iknownothing      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 12:27) Posted:

whats AK?? ..i not enough skill to be sifu..my fundamental damm chui..TA can share via posting..i only earn decent amount..not trading daily.

u should find someone who is full timer trader/reminsier whom did really good. be sincere to them and they will teach.

Smiley

Cheers!



bladez87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 09:34) Posted:

AK! be my sifu! pls accept disciple 1 bow!


 
 
iPunter
    14-Nov-2010 12:59  
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Yes, newbies can benefit a lot from BT's guidance...

      While holding is good when you are having good profits,

          holding when you are losing after entering at the wrong price point

              is not the right thing to do.

                 Furthermore, even if you are having profits,

                   by holding too long, you can easily let your profits run away too...

                         especially when you are very confident... Smiley


 
 
extinct
    14-Nov-2010 12:44  
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i think i am what u r referring to

  "Simply holding and holding, and hoping to make more money

      is not the way to long well.."

that's why i am here reading and learning from all seniors.

till BT conducts his training.....

Cheers

newbie



iPunter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 10:38) Posted:

When you know how to play long well,

    you will naturally know how to play short too.

       Thus, by longing well, you will at the same time be learning how to short.

           You will know what I mean if you understand and bear this in mind :-

                To play long well is to know when to sell at the right time.

                    Simply holding and holding, and hoping to make more money

                         is not the way to long well... Smiley



iPunter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 06:45) Posted:

Your post suggests you are a still new.

      If you are a newbie, I suggest you don't play any shorting at all.

         Because shorting is only good for sophisticated traders with years experience.

             I strongly suggest you only play long. Playing long means to buy stocks.

                 But since buying stocks is must also a form of betting, you must treat it as betting.

                     Before you can bet successfully, you must learn some simple technical analysis.

                          But you don't need to be a genius in it. Newbies must put education as their top priority.

                              Because newbies usually let their urge to make big money become their top priority,

                                  they don't bother about other priorities at all.

                                      For a start, I would suggest you attend BT's coaching sessions and take it from there.

                                          BT has a good heart and I have confidence he will give you good guidance.

                                              But after you have learned the principles, the rest will depend on your own style... Smiley



 

 
iPunter
    14-Nov-2010 12:38  
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No matter if it's naked short or CDF short,

    if you are not already good in playing long,

      you should not go naked and play short...

         simply because you are not ready.

Look at it this way...

        If you are not able to slide down without falling at the playground,

            you should not go bungee-jumping. You must progress step by step... Smiley 



butter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 11:17) Posted:



thanks for the info.

 but from wat i know shorting hav to be done within the same day rite? so unless there is cfd, trade settlement can be done within t+3?

 
 
iknownothing
    14-Nov-2010 12:27  
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whats AK?? ..i not enough skill to be sifu..my fundamental damm chui..TA can share via posting..i only earn decent amount..not trading daily.

u should find someone who is full timer trader/reminsier whom did really good. be sincere to them and they will teach.

Smiley

Cheers!



bladez87      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 09:34) Posted:

AK! be my sifu! pls accept disciple 1 bow!


iknownothing      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 00:46) Posted:



@blade87 think u need to find a mentor that suits ur style of investing/trading, follow his/her trait closely..think of what will they do for this moment etc..

u can read from books..but books only give u history record..the thing is how u gona predict the next step and ur probability of winning..i'm not a pro, but i follow closely to a mentor..follow too many will only confuse u..like u learn driving, like u get source from internet..too many info and different methods..follow 1 mentor that suits u, and be very focus on their method used..try to copy and paste to ur memory..when u adapt..or comfortable with the type of investing/trading..it will makes u money..may be alot may be decent amount...learn to earn hundreds then thousands..is the process and experience that counts..dont take money too hard...else when u get blind..it would be hard for u to gain back..make ur plan though saying is easier.

e.g. if BT trading's style suits u may be u can buy him a coffee and learn from him.or pay abit fee to learn..

Usually i will post something don't make sense but this is a post that base on my past experience, hope it helps u because it helped me.

Cheers!


 
 
butter
    14-Nov-2010 11:17  
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thanks for the info.

 but from wat i know shorting hav to be done within the same day rite? so unless there is cfd, trade settlement can be done within t+3?
 
 
iPunter
    14-Nov-2010 10:38  
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When you know how to play long well,

    you will naturally know how to play short too.

       Thus, by longing well, you will at the same time be learning how to short.

           You will know what I mean if you understand and bear this in mind :-

                To play long well is to know when to sell at the right time.

                    Simply holding and holding, and hoping to make more money

                         is not the way to long well... Smiley



iPunter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 06:45) Posted:

Your post suggests you are a still new.

      If you are a newbie, I suggest you don't play any shorting at all.

         Because shorting is only good for sophisticated traders with years experience.

             I strongly suggest you only play long. Playing long means to buy stocks.

                 But since buying stocks is must also a form of betting, you must treat it as betting.

                     Before you can bet successfully, you must learn some simple technical analysis.

                          But you don't need to be a genius in it. Newbies must put education as their top priority.

                              Because newbies usually let their urge to make big money become their top priority,

                                  they don't bother about other priorities at all.

                                      For a start, I would suggest you attend BT's coaching sessions and take it from there.

                                          BT has a good heart and I have confidence he will give you good guidance.

                                              But after you have learned the principles, the rest will depend on your own style... Smiley



butter      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 00:55) Posted:



hi there,

I was wondering if any1 could explain how can one short a stock on tues yet failed to produce them for settlement on fri?

what does this implies? thanks for the help!


 
 
bladez87
    14-Nov-2010 09:34  
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AK! be my sifu! pls accept disciple 1 bow!


iknownothing      ( Date: 14-Nov-2010 00:46) Posted:



@blade87 think u need to find a mentor that suits ur style of investing/trading, follow his/her trait closely..think of what will they do for this moment etc..

u can read from books..but books only give u history record..the thing is how u gona predict the next step and ur probability of winning..i'm not a pro, but i follow closely to a mentor..follow too many will only confuse u..like u learn driving, like u get source from internet..too many info and different methods..follow 1 mentor that suits u, and be very focus on their method used..try to copy and paste to ur memory..when u adapt..or comfortable with the type of investing/trading..it will makes u money..may be alot may be decent amount...learn to earn hundreds then thousands..is the process and experience that counts..dont take money too hard...else when u get blind..it would be hard for u to gain back..make ur plan though saying is easier.

e.g. if BT trading's style suits u may be u can buy him a coffee and learn from him.or pay abit fee to learn..

Usually i will post something don't make sense but this is a post that base on my past experience, hope it helps u because it helped me.

Cheers!

 
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