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iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 14:35  
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Sifu is right...

    But the number of winners is really too miniscule...  Smiley


stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 14:33) Posted:

I agree that share is not meant for  all type of people. But saying playing share will be sure to go " pok!" ? lol that is way too extreme, dont you think? There is losers, but there is also winners as well in this case :)

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 14:25) Posted:



You may wish to know that there are family heads

    who strictly prohibit their later generations to ever

            touch stocks. Which is a good thing, because if

            they play shares, they will  be sure to go " pok!" .

                                This is a universal truth... Smiley


 
 
stoheart72
    12-Sep-2011 14:33  
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I agree that share is not meant for  all type of people. But saying playing share will be sure to go " pok!" ? lol that is way too extreme, dont you think? There is losers, but there is also winners as well in this case :)

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 14:25) Posted:



You may wish to know that there are family heads

    who strictly prohibit their later generations to ever

            touch stocks. Which is a good thing, because if

            they play shares, they will  be sure to go " pok!" .

                                This is a universal truth... Smiley


eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 14:20) Posted:



thanks for sharing.....wow, 70% of friends and relatives goes casino at least once ..... that is alot as compared with my  survey as there are only less than 0.05 % of the friends and relatives going to casino..... even  my uncles and aunties who buy 4d, toto diligently and plus special football / big sweep also did not step into Singapore casino before..... but these results  are very interesting.

Maybe we should extend the survey to find more results


 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 14:25  
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You may wish to know that there are family heads

    who strictly prohibit their later generations to ever

            touch stocks. Which is a good thing, because if

            they play shares, they will  be sure to go " pok!" .

                                This is a universal truth... Smiley


eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 14:20) Posted:



thanks for sharing.....wow, 70% of friends and relatives goes casino at least once ..... that is alot as compared with my  survey as there are only less than 0.05 % of the friends and relatives going to casino..... even  my uncles and aunties who buy 4d, toto diligently and plus special football / big sweep also did not step into Singapore casino before..... but these results  are very interesting.

Maybe we should extend the survey to find more results.

stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:12) Posted:

Most unfortunate indeed, luckily for me I " hit the wall" when I was much younger, suicide was not in my thoughts then. Gambling within one's means and never ever borrow money to gamble, that is one policy everyone have to learn. Same with everything else, moderation. Buying a fast car doesnt mean you have to go top speed on the road, so I hope people can safeguard oneself and enjoy what they have safely


 

 
eplepl
    12-Sep-2011 14:20  
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thanks for sharing.....wow, 70% of friends and relatives goes casino at least once ..... that is alot as compared with my  survey as there are only less than 0.05 % of the friends and relatives going to casino..... even  my uncles and aunties who buy 4d, toto diligently and plus special football / big sweep also did not step into Singapore casino before..... but these results  are very interesting.

Maybe we should extend the survey to find more results.

stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:12) Posted:

Most unfortunate indeed, luckily for me I " hit the wall" when I was much younger, suicide was not in my thoughts then. Gambling within one's means and never ever borrow money to gamble, that is one policy everyone have to learn. Same with everything else, moderation. Buying a fast car doesnt mean you have to go top speed on the road, so I hope people can safeguard oneself and enjoy what they have safely.

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:05) Posted:



Yes, correct...

      there are many cases of casino-related

                    suicides surely more to come...   Smiley


 
 
stoheart72
    12-Sep-2011 13:12  
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Most unfortunate indeed, luckily for me I " hit the wall" when I was much younger, suicide was not in my thoughts then. Gambling within one's means and never ever borrow money to gamble, that is one policy everyone have to learn. Same with everything else, moderation. Buying a fast car doesnt mean you have to go top speed on the road, so I hope people can safeguard oneself and enjoy what they have safely.

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:05) Posted:



Yes, correct...

      there are many cases of casino-related

                    suicides surely more to come...   Smiley


stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:00) Posted:

lol all links is wrong... anyway think you meant the lady who wanna hang herself due to " ah long" after gambling


 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 13:05  
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Yes, correct...

      there are many cases of casino-related

                    suicides surely more to come...   Smiley


stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 13:00) Posted:

lol all links is wrong... anyway think you meant the lady who wanna hang herself due to " ah long" after gambling?

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:57) Posted:



Bad links... try this (cut and paste)...

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=3in1kopitiam& msg=57356.1


 

 
stoheart72
    12-Sep-2011 13:00  
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lol all links is wrong... anyway think you meant the lady who wanna hang herself due to " ah long" after gambling?

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:57) Posted:



Bad links... try this (cut and paste)...

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=3in1kopitiam& msg=57356.1

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:55) Posted:

opps wrong link... Click


 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 12:57  
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Bad links... try this (cut and paste)...

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=3in1kopitiam& msg=57356.1

iPunter      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:55) Posted:

opps wrong link... Click

 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 12:55  
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opps wrong link... Click
 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 12:53  
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Another Casino suicide case... Click    ...  Smiley 
 

 
stoheart72
    12-Sep-2011 12:30  
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I wouldnt say it is a survey, but if you really wanna know, at least 70% of my relative (those that is below  60 years old) visited or are still visiting  those casinos, and for friends, I dont have exact numbers, but most of them been there before as well. As to how often they are there, I  cant be  sure. :)

And I dont see any hard feelings about it, so no worries in asking :)

eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:15) Posted:



no hard feeling, just a question : did u perform any survey on your own group of friends and relatives ?

let us know if you did, and maybe we can compare the results. 

stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:02) Posted:



Your circle of contacts might not be interested in sp casinos, but that might not applies to others' as well lol. Anyway there is definately a market for the locals in these casinos. Genting sp for example, have a whole section for locals only (those that paid levy), made them feel like VIP? and those section is crowded.    If gov raise the levy  seriously does not  means that the business will be affected, on the contrary, imo it shows that the gov sees a potentially good place to increase revenue. Just like ERP, casino levies is a good place to profit. They know that even if they raise it, the visitors will still be increasing, just like the amount of vehicles in Singapore.

These are just my opinion of course, but also can serve as food for thoughts for some :


 
 
eplepl
    12-Sep-2011 12:15  
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no hard feeling, just a question : did u perform any survey on your own group of friends and relatives ?

let us know if you did, and maybe we can compare the results. 

stoheart72      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 12:02) Posted:



Your circle of contacts might not be interested in sp casinos, but that might not applies to others' as well lol. Anyway there is definately a market for the locals in these casinos. Genting sp for example, have a whole section for locals only (those that paid levy), made them feel like VIP? and those section is crowded.    If gov raise the levy  seriously does not  means that the business will be affected, on the contrary, imo it shows that the gov sees a potentially good place to increase revenue. Just like ERP, casino levies is a good place to profit. They know that even if they raise it, the visitors will still be increasing, just like the amount of vehicles in Singapore.

These are just my opinion of course, but also can serve as food for thoughts for some :)

eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 11:39) Posted:



i am singaporean.  for sure I did not enter any of the casino....

many of my friends/relatives has not been to singapore casino yet..... where is the increase ? a personal survey out 30 relatives only one has been to casino and 30 friends only 2 has been to casino.......

a bit strange when i compared with the news on the papers..

 

 


 
 
iPunter
    12-Sep-2011 12:02  
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There may be a large population here, but only

    relatively few are Internet-savvy. There's a huge

          bulk of the population who does not even have

                  any inkling of the Internet besides the local TV

                            and newspaper. Very sad situation, but true... Smiley


rotijai      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 11:42) Posted:



cause most of u are betting in SGX..

there's another group of ppl who doesnt know how to click buy & sell..

they prefer to hold cards n bet.. or bet on numbers..

eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 11:39) Posted:



i am singaporean.  for sure I did not enter any of the casino....

many of my friends/relatives has not been to singapore casino yet..... where is the increase ? a personal survey out 30 relatives only one has been to casino and 30 friends only 2 has been to casino.......

a bit strange when i compared with the news on the papers..

 

 


 
 
stoheart72
    12-Sep-2011 12:02  
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Your circle of contacts might not be interested in sp casinos, but that might not applies to others' as well lol. Anyway there is definately a market for the locals in these casinos. Genting sp for example, have a whole section for locals only (those that paid levy), made them feel like VIP? and those section is crowded.    If gov raise the levy  seriously does not  means that the business will be affected, on the contrary, imo it shows that the gov sees a potentially good place to increase revenue. Just like ERP, casino levies is a good place to profit. They know that even if they raise it, the visitors will still be increasing, just like the amount of vehicles in Singapore.

These are just my opinion of course, but also can serve as food for thoughts for some :)

eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 11:39) Posted:



i am singaporean.  for sure I did not enter any of the casino....

many of my friends/relatives has not been to singapore casino yet..... where is the increase ? a personal survey out 30 relatives only one has been to casino and 30 friends only 2 has been to casino.......

a bit strange when i compared with the news on the papers..

 

 

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:49) Posted:



If I am not wrong, the gahman stated that the casinos are

meant for the tourists to gamble and not for singaporean.

The  irony is that the reverse has happened


 
 
pharoah88
    12-Sep-2011 11:59  
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STI's 120-point swing


With global markets characteristically volatile of late, it was no surprise that the STI underwent yet another wild week - swinging 126 points between its high-low of the week. The benchmark index eventually finished down 0.6% week-on-week (wow) at 2,825.1. 

Genting Singapore headed back toward optimistic levels
Capitalising on positive days to make strong moves was casino operator Genting Singapore. Battered to a low of $1.49 just two weeks ago, Genting Singapore used last week to claw its way back up. The stock finished up 5.3% wow to $1.70 on Friday.

Call GentingSMBeCW120403@ (OZ8W) exercise price $1.60.*
Put GentingSMBePW120301@ (OT4W) exercise price $1.85.*
 

 
rotijai
    12-Sep-2011 11:42  
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cause most of u are betting in SGX..

there's another group of ppl who doesnt know how to click buy & sell..

they prefer to hold cards n bet.. or bet on numbers..

eplepl      ( Date: 12-Sep-2011 11:39) Posted:



i am singaporean.  for sure I did not enter any of the casino....

many of my friends/relatives has not been to singapore casino yet..... where is the increase ? a personal survey out 30 relatives only one has been to casino and 30 friends only 2 has been to casino.......

a bit strange when i compared with the news on the papers..

 

 

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:49) Posted:



If I am not wrong, the gahman stated that the casinos are

meant for the tourists to gamble and not for singaporean.

The  irony is that the reverse has happened


 
 
eplepl
    12-Sep-2011 11:39  
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i am singaporean.  for sure I did not enter any of the casino....

many of my friends/relatives has not been to singapore casino yet..... where is the increase ? a personal survey out 30 relatives only one has been to casino and 30 friends only 2 has been to casino.......

a bit strange when i compared with the news on the papers..

 

 

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:49) Posted:



If I am not wrong, the gahman stated that the casinos are

meant for the tourists to gamble and not for singaporean.

The  irony is that the reverse has happened.

bishan22      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 15:48) Posted:

Today ST, someone suggested $100 levy to be raised to $300.  Can say bye bye to the 2 resorts.  Smiley


 
 
Bloodybloke
    10-Sep-2011 19:03  
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good to short if it doesnt gap down too much on monday?
 
 
iPunter
    10-Sep-2011 18:51  
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They will never ban Singaporeans from entering...

    They need more and more gamblers to keep it going,

          The more the merrier... lol...  Smiley   


belgeran      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 18:46) Posted:



yea, it won't deter.. only make gamblers want to bet more to recover their levy.

the best they can do is to ban singaporeans from entering totally :x

iPunter      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:59) Posted:

Sifu is right...


If they raise the locals levy, they will only make more money.

    Furthermore, with higher levy, people will gamble even harder

                to recover the levy higher they paid...  Smiley   


 
 
belgeran
    10-Sep-2011 18:46  
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yea, it won't deter.. only make gamblers want to bet more to recover their levy.

the best they can do is to ban singaporeans from entering totally :x

iPunter      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:59) Posted:

Sifu is right...


If they raise the locals levy, they will only make more money.

    Furthermore, with higher levy, people will gamble even harder

                to recover the levy higher they paid...  Smiley   


AnthonyTan      ( Date: 10-Sep-2011 17:49) Posted:



If I am not wrong, the gahman stated that the casinos are

meant for the tourists to gamble and not for singaporean.

The  irony is that the reverse has happened


 
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