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cannotfind
    15-Nov-2010 18:16  
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no la... I also got at high price wat... just telling the facts mah... I am hiring people, are you interested to join me Danial?

Jfierce      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 18:01) Posted:

wah.. why you so happy that genting drop further?

i rather it go back to "All Rise" for all the stocks instead.



cannotfind      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:59) Posted:

so conclusion as per Whiz kis is 2.07 tomorrow!!! May I split 2.07 and 2.0 as per his advice


 
 
icetomato
    15-Nov-2010 18:11  
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Where got people dissing Leinad here?? All thanking and praising what...

aikkia      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 18:04) Posted:



agreed with you there...but even den when BT was teaching i din't make money at all unlike a lot of ppl here who followed his calls for BUY and SELL...think i really hafta learn from his course...

In addition...it prob feels to daniel dat everyone is implying that cos he's young and earning from the market that he doesn't have to learn. That from his comments that he's arrogant or sth because of the way he says it...

in fact...he prob would like to learn from others out here including BT.

 
 
aikkia
    15-Nov-2010 18:04  
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agreed with you there...but even den when BT was teaching i din't make money at all unlike a lot of ppl here who followed his calls for BUY and SELL...think i really hafta learn from his course...

In addition...it prob feels to daniel dat everyone is implying that cos he's young and earning from the market that he doesn't have to learn. That from his comments that he's arrogant or sth because of the way he says it...

in fact...he prob would like to learn from others out here including BT.
 

 
Jfierce
    15-Nov-2010 18:01  
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wah.. why you so happy that genting drop further?

i rather it go back to "All Rise" for all the stocks instead.



cannotfind      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:59) Posted:

so conclusion as per Whiz kis is 2.07 tomorrow!!! May I split 2.07 and 2.0 as per his advice

 
 
cannotfind
    15-Nov-2010 17:59  
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so conclusion as per Whiz kis is 2.07 tomorrow!!! May I split 2.07 and 2.0 as per his advice
 
 
epliew
    15-Nov-2010 17:57  
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without BT, i thought I will be lost, because BT training course is not yet started.....

but this young man, really got more stuff that most of us....

from street gang to top uni..... wow..... better than most of us almost twice his age,,,,, still know nuts about trading....



aikkia      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:36) Posted:



hey daniel...

thx for your posts...think everyone shld take a step back and seriously look at what he is saying...words that are harsh usually are much harder to sink in...especially in times when people are caught off and losing money...

just to show...keyed in 2.28 early on thurs morning but i din noe get and seeing how it went up to 2.32 in the afternoon...forgot all bout cancelling it until i saw that it was filled just right at closing...

and like wat he said...i went to average down...and yes now im caught n just decided to let go at 2.1...

just wanna say that thanks daniel for posting his comments here...age at 21 with 4 yrs exp is a lot more than others prob twice his age and still making the same mistakes...i haf made quite a lot and this really stinks and stings...his words are actually harsh enough to wake me up...

so even though it seems like harsh words are not the norm in our society...do cont to post them lidat if it does help others...cos its starting to wake me up...and i need to buck up!

thx!

 

 
aikkia
    15-Nov-2010 17:49  
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experience and things you have been through always sink in the hardest...hence his emotions when he warned others n wanted others to learn...

now i really need to sit down n learn well too!

hoping to learn more from everyone here...
 
 
Jfierce
    15-Nov-2010 17:46  
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Hey Daniel. If you can contact me at shoguku2@gmail.com it would be wonderful! Else i would be quite happy to follow your advice on the forum also. I'm quite hear most ppl here would be happy to take your advice just that sometimes emotionally quite hard to follow.

I also find it very hard to cut loss especially when within a few days i can lose half a mth's pay so fast i also blur...

 Anyway thanks for taking the time to help out!



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:35) Posted:



the only reason why i cared is not cause of you or your greed it was because my family almost went bankrupt once.. and i saw how my family lost almost everything.. and had to survive on handouts... but we didnt give up .. we didn't stop learning.. didn't stop trying.. and i know many of you here have a family.. kids and stuff.. and i dun want your family to go through what i went through .. believe it or not..i'm not from a top jc.. im not ashame to say it.. i was in a gang last time. got expelled in secondary 1... went to a neighbourhood school .. almost went to jail when i was 13 ... but that's all redundant..

Bladez87 i know ur about my age and your learning and i respect that.. but what i wanna tell u is this.. don't give an excuse and say because im specical or because im not an average joe on the street .. thats why if i succeed it's a given thing... your age.. your learning ability is not dependent on your family break ground .. it's on how hard you are willing to learn.. to try and most importantly of all ... how hard you freakin wanna make it in life... don't give yourself excuses cause of the social or economic status.. and be a whim and blame this or that... books can be found in the library .. in book stores.. what i have acquired.. you can afford it too.. if only you tried. your uni degree is just a paper that's worth that amount.... your real education starts on the streets..and most importantly of all . .your real education starts in the stock market when you put your money on the line to prove that you are the best damn trader out there..

 

:) just fyi ... 2.07 should be close to bottoming out price... macd .. stochastics and RSI seems to indicate that... today see USA opening and closing... if USA futures up and open strongly... it means market confidence starting to come back cause china index today's up ( correct me if i'm wrong) but if 2.07 is broken .. close all positions.. short it to 2.

 
 
aikkia
    15-Nov-2010 17:44  
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think it wasn't so much as to upset him but he realised that when he was giving advice...though not in a subtle and direct way dat cuts right thru to everyone...and people started to discuss about him...

 
 
 
cannotfind
    15-Nov-2010 17:40  
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omg, did I upset him??? Sorry man... just kidding... don't go away.... calling you a Whiz is a compliment

iPunter      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:22) Posted:

Hi Daniel,

It's good to have you here in this forum.

      Because many will benefit tremendously from your words.

           Take care... Smiley



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:



hi all.. i'm going to not talk about this anymore... i dun wanna say i told you so ..but i already explained and if you listened .. good.. if not..  i hate being misquoted.. or misunderstood.. 

 

Cut the long story short.. before i leave this forum .. i just wanna share what the market is about.. it doesn't give a shit about you.. care about your feelings or whatsoever.. it has it's own rules.. own laws.. just like math... 1+1=2 and x^5 = y^5 when x=y ..... there's no running.. or hiding .. or anything.. it's the truth .. believe it or not.. read all the historical charts.. 1997 crash .. 2000.com bubble crash ... recent crash .. see all the historical charts.. see all the signs and signals.. see all the symptoms and see how it repeats itself over and over.. it's a law... it's just like a math question... 1+1 = 2 .. sometimes they show u 2-1 = 1 .. or 1x1 = 2 .. but all the same.. just different variations... I'm not a seer or a god.. but i have been reading about stocks since 14.. and i have seen through intern and jobs how the traders trade.. how they spend years practicing.. a lawyer and doctor takes 6 years of training to even earn a 6 figure annual income.. what more about a trader who can earn so much more...

 

You think it's only about buy/sell volume.. about this or that... for goodness sake.. if thats the case.. why do most people lose money.. dun believe? average yourself out since u started trading. keep a chart and see how much u earn or made (inclusive of inflation and i/r) and see how much better off your money is if u had park it in a bank .. if you are better off.. congrats.. ur a good trader.. no matter how small the profit .. it's still a profit... if you lose.. no matter how much u lose.. ur still a loser... whatever it is.. the main thing is to realize that emotional attachment.. speculating this or that and catching the trend will kill u .. formulate a plan a day before.. stick to it .. and ride it out... why do u think investment bankers start work at 2pm and end 8am? it's to prepare reports for their clients and the traders what to do or follow for the opening market... without preparation.. your f**ked.... if you think you can beat it .. and i'm talking cock.. okay.. good luck to you sir... if not.. please remember what i've said.. i don't want to sound pompous or anything.. after all i'm only 21 years old.... and many of you have eaten more rice then i have ate salt.... but i just don't want you all to cannot eat .. cannot sleep cuase of the money.. i've been there before and it sucks... and i hope that you all make it successful .. whatever strategies you use..

 

Hope i didn't offend anyone.. and cheerios :D 


 




 

 
epliew
    15-Nov-2010 17:38  
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wow, u really got me.....by the neck !!!!!!

 

sorry to hear that.....but you seems to have changed alot ! - getting better that I thought the average singapore 21 years old ?



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:35) Posted:



the only reason why i cared is not cause of you or your greed it was because my family almost went bankrupt once.. and i saw how my family lost almost everything.. and had to survive on handouts... but we didnt give up .. we didn't stop learning.. didn't stop trying.. and i know many of you here have a family.. kids and stuff.. and i dun want your family to go through what i went through .. believe it or not..i'm not from a top jc.. im not ashame to say it.. i was in a gang last time. got expelled in secondary 1... went to a neighbourhood school .. almost went to jail when i was 13 ... but that's all redundant..

Bladez87 i know ur about my age and your learning and i respect that.. but what i wanna tell u is this.. don't give an excuse and say because im specical or because im not an average joe on the street .. thats why if i succeed it's a given thing... your age.. your learning ability is not dependent on your family break ground .. it's on how hard you are willing to learn.. to try and most importantly of all ... how hard you freakin wanna make it in life... don't give yourself excuses cause of the social or economic status.. and be a whim and blame this or that... books can be found in the library .. in book stores.. what i have acquired.. you can afford it too.. if only you tried. your uni degree is just a paper that's worth that amount.... your real education starts on the streets..and most importantly of all . .your real education starts in the stock market when you put your money on the line to prove that you are the best damn trader out there..

 

:) just fyi ... 2.07 should be close to bottoming out price... macd .. stochastics and RSI seems to indicate that... today see USA opening and closing... if USA futures up and open strongly... it means market confidence starting to come back cause china index today's up ( correct me if i'm wrong) but if 2.07 is broken .. close all positions.. short it to 2.

 
 
aikkia
    15-Nov-2010 17:36  
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hey daniel...

thx for your posts...think everyone shld take a step back and seriously look at what he is saying...words that are harsh usually are much harder to sink in...especially in times when people are caught off and losing money...

just to show...keyed in 2.28 early on thurs morning but i din noe get and seeing how it went up to 2.32 in the afternoon...forgot all bout cancelling it until i saw that it was filled just right at closing...

and like wat he said...i went to average down...and yes now im caught n just decided to let go at 2.1...

just wanna say that thanks daniel for posting his comments here...age at 21 with 4 yrs exp is a lot more than others prob twice his age and still making the same mistakes...i haf made quite a lot and this really stinks and stings...his words are actually harsh enough to wake me up...

so even though it seems like harsh words are not the norm in our society...do cont to post them lidat if it does help others...cos its starting to wake me up...and i need to buck up!

thx!
 
 
epliew
    15-Nov-2010 17:35  
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hey master,

I really like your analysis, please do not stop.  i am still listening....

write to my personal e-mail: epliew@yahoo.com.sg i am still missing the charting skills....



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:



hi all.. i'm going to not talk about this anymore... i dun wanna say i told you so ..but i already explained and if you listened .. good.. if not..  i hate being misquoted.. or misunderstood.. 

 

Cut the long story short.. before i leave this forum .. i just wanna share what the market is about.. it doesn't give a shit about you.. care about your feelings or whatsoever.. it has it's own rules.. own laws.. just like math... 1+1=2 and x^5 = y^5 when x=y ..... there's no running.. or hiding .. or anything.. it's the truth .. believe it or not.. read all the historical charts.. 1997 crash .. 2000.com bubble crash ... recent crash .. see all the historical charts.. see all the signs and signals.. see all the symptoms and see how it repeats itself over and over.. it's a law... it's just like a math question... 1+1 = 2 .. sometimes they show u 2-1 = 1 .. or 1x1 = 2 .. but all the same.. just different variations... I'm not a seer or a god.. but i have been reading about stocks since 14.. and i have seen through intern and jobs how the traders trade.. how they spend years practicing.. a lawyer and doctor takes 6 years of training to even earn a 6 figure annual income.. what more about a trader who can earn so much more...

 

You think it's only about buy/sell volume.. about this or that... for goodness sake.. if thats the case.. why do most people lose money.. dun believe? average yourself out since u started trading. keep a chart and see how much u earn or made (inclusive of inflation and i/r) and see how much better off your money is if u had park it in a bank .. if you are better off.. congrats.. ur a good trader.. no matter how small the profit .. it's still a profit... if you lose.. no matter how much u lose.. ur still a loser... whatever it is.. the main thing is to realize that emotional attachment.. speculating this or that and catching the trend will kill u .. formulate a plan a day before.. stick to it .. and ride it out... why do u think investment bankers start work at 2pm and end 8am? it's to prepare reports for their clients and the traders what to do or follow for the opening market... without preparation.. your f**ked.... if you think you can beat it .. and i'm talking cock.. okay.. good luck to you sir... if not.. please remember what i've said.. i don't want to sound pompous or anything.. after all i'm only 21 years old.... and many of you have eaten more rice then i have ate salt.... but i just don't want you all to cannot eat .. cannot sleep cuase of the money.. i've been there before and it sucks... and i hope that you all make it successful .. whatever strategies you use..

 

Hope i didn't offend anyone.. and cheerios :D 


 



 
 
Leinadgnow
    15-Nov-2010 17:35  
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the only reason why i cared is not cause of you or your greed it was because my family almost went bankrupt once.. and i saw how my family lost almost everything.. and had to survive on handouts... but we didnt give up .. we didn't stop learning.. didn't stop trying.. and i know many of you here have a family.. kids and stuff.. and i dun want your family to go through what i went through .. believe it or not..i'm not from a top jc.. im not ashame to say it.. i was in a gang last time. got expelled in secondary 1... went to a neighbourhood school .. almost went to jail when i was 13 ... but that's all redundant..

Bladez87 i know ur about my age and your learning and i respect that.. but what i wanna tell u is this.. don't give an excuse and say because im specical or because im not an average joe on the street .. thats why if i succeed it's a given thing... your age.. your learning ability is not dependent on your family break ground .. it's on how hard you are willing to learn.. to try and most importantly of all ... how hard you freakin wanna make it in life... don't give yourself excuses cause of the social or economic status.. and be a whim and blame this or that... books can be found in the library .. in book stores.. what i have acquired.. you can afford it too.. if only you tried. your uni degree is just a paper that's worth that amount.... your real education starts on the streets..and most importantly of all . .your real education starts in the stock market when you put your money on the line to prove that you are the best damn trader out there..

 

:) just fyi ... 2.07 should be close to bottoming out price... macd .. stochastics and RSI seems to indicate that... today see USA opening and closing... if USA futures up and open strongly... it means market confidence starting to come back cause china index today's up ( correct me if i'm wrong) but if 2.07 is broken .. close all positions.. short it to 2.
 
 
Jfierce
    15-Nov-2010 17:30  
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huh? don't tell me you really leave this forum for good? was hoping to speak to you so can gain more insights on how to improve or what to look out for in this current market. Already you helped me save a little bit of cash as i followed your advice to cut loss on Golden Agr.

 I also losing quite a bit but at least i didn't lose more. Hopefully you stick around so you can help ppl like me who are really quite lost atm.

 Anyway... just want to wish you all the best in your exams!



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:



hi all.. i'm going to not talk about this anymore... i dun wanna say i told you so ..but i already explained and if you listened .. good.. if not..  i hate being misquoted.. or misunderstood.. 

 

Cut the long story short.. before i leave this forum .. i just wanna share what the market is about.. it doesn't give a shit about you.. care about your feelings or whatsoever.. it has it's own rules.. own laws.. just like math... 1+1=2 and x^5 = y^5 when x=y ..... there's no running.. or hiding .. or anything.. it's the truth .. believe it or not.. read all the historical charts.. 1997 crash .. 2000.com bubble crash ... recent crash .. see all the historical charts.. see all the signs and signals.. see all the symptoms and see how it repeats itself over and over.. it's a law... it's just like a math question... 1+1 = 2 .. sometimes they show u 2-1 = 1 .. or 1x1 = 2 .. but all the same.. just different variations... I'm not a seer or a god.. but i have been reading about stocks since 14.. and i have seen through intern and jobs how the traders trade.. how they spend years practicing.. a lawyer and doctor takes 6 years of training to even earn a 6 figure annual income.. what more about a trader who can earn so much more...

 

You think it's only about buy/sell volume.. about this or that... for goodness sake.. if thats the case.. why do most people lose money.. dun believe? average yourself out since u started trading. keep a chart and see how much u earn or made (inclusive of inflation and i/r) and see how much better off your money is if u had park it in a bank .. if you are better off.. congrats.. ur a good trader.. no matter how small the profit .. it's still a profit... if you lose.. no matter how much u lose.. ur still a loser... whatever it is.. the main thing is to realize that emotional attachment.. speculating this or that and catching the trend will kill u .. formulate a plan a day before.. stick to it .. and ride it out... why do u think investment bankers start work at 2pm and end 8am? it's to prepare reports for their clients and the traders what to do or follow for the opening market... without preparation.. your f**ked.... if you think you can beat it .. and i'm talking cock.. okay.. good luck to you sir... if not.. please remember what i've said.. i don't want to sound pompous or anything.. after all i'm only 21 years old.... and many of you have eaten more rice then i have ate salt.... but i just don't want you all to cannot eat .. cannot sleep cuase of the money.. i've been there before and it sucks... and i hope that you all make it successful .. whatever strategies you use..

 

Hope i didn't offend anyone.. and cheerios :D 


 



 

 
iPunter
    15-Nov-2010 17:22  
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Hi Daniel,

It's good to have you here in this forum.

      Because many will benefit tremendously from your words.

           Take care... Smiley



Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:



hi all.. i'm going to not talk about this anymore... i dun wanna say i told you so ..but i already explained and if you listened .. good.. if not..  i hate being misquoted.. or misunderstood.. 

 

Cut the long story short.. before i leave this forum .. i just wanna share what the market is about.. it doesn't give a shit about you.. care about your feelings or whatsoever.. it has it's own rules.. own laws.. just like math... 1+1=2 and x^5 = y^5 when x=y ..... there's no running.. or hiding .. or anything.. it's the truth .. believe it or not.. read all the historical charts.. 1997 crash .. 2000.com bubble crash ... recent crash .. see all the historical charts.. see all the signs and signals.. see all the symptoms and see how it repeats itself over and over.. it's a law... it's just like a math question... 1+1 = 2 .. sometimes they show u 2-1 = 1 .. or 1x1 = 2 .. but all the same.. just different variations... I'm not a seer or a god.. but i have been reading about stocks since 14.. and i have seen through intern and jobs how the traders trade.. how they spend years practicing.. a lawyer and doctor takes 6 years of training to even earn a 6 figure annual income.. what more about a trader who can earn so much more...

 

You think it's only about buy/sell volume.. about this or that... for goodness sake.. if thats the case.. why do most people lose money.. dun believe? average yourself out since u started trading. keep a chart and see how much u earn or made (inclusive of inflation and i/r) and see how much better off your money is if u had park it in a bank .. if you are better off.. congrats.. ur a good trader.. no matter how small the profit .. it's still a profit... if you lose.. no matter how much u lose.. ur still a loser... whatever it is.. the main thing is to realize that emotional attachment.. speculating this or that and catching the trend will kill u .. formulate a plan a day before.. stick to it .. and ride it out... why do u think investment bankers start work at 2pm and end 8am? it's to prepare reports for their clients and the traders what to do or follow for the opening market... without preparation.. your f**ked.... if you think you can beat it .. and i'm talking cock.. okay.. good luck to you sir... if not.. please remember what i've said.. i don't want to sound pompous or anything.. after all i'm only 21 years old.... and many of you have eaten more rice then i have ate salt.... but i just don't want you all to cannot eat .. cannot sleep cuase of the money.. i've been there before and it sucks... and i hope that you all make it successful .. whatever strategies you use..

 

Hope i didn't offend anyone.. and cheerios :D 


 



 
 
bladez87
    15-Nov-2010 17:22  
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he 21yo in SMU, being a professional trader. chances are he came from 1 of the top JCs and good family background.

nothing personal, but he is not the average joe on the street.



cannotfind      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:17) Posted:

this 21 kid is a Whiz kid... he can type so fast.... and mask the bad words too....

Leinadgnow      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:15) Posted:



hi all.. i'm going to not talk about this anymore... i dun wanna say i told you so ..but i already explained and if you listened .. good.. if not..  i hate being misquoted.. or misunderstood.. 

 

Cut the long story short.. before i leave this forum .. i just wanna share what the market is about.. it doesn't give a shit about you.. care about your feelings or whatsoever.. it has it's own rules.. own laws.. just like math... 1+1=2 and x^5 = y^5 when x=y ..... there's no running.. or hiding .. or anything.. it's the truth .. believe it or not.. read all the historical charts.. 1997 crash .. 2000.com bubble crash ... recent crash .. see all the historical charts.. see all the signs and signals.. see all the symptoms and see how it repeats itself over and over.. it's a law... it's just like a math question... 1+1 = 2 .. sometimes they show u 2-1 = 1 .. or 1x1 = 2 .. but all the same.. just different variations... I'm not a seer or a god.. but i have been reading about stocks since 14.. and i have seen through intern and jobs how the traders trade.. how they spend years practicing.. a lawyer and doctor takes 6 years of training to even earn a 6 figure annual income.. what more about a trader who can earn so much more...

 

You think it's only about buy/sell volume.. about this or that... for goodness sake.. if thats the case.. why do most people lose money.. dun believe? average yourself out since u started trading. keep a chart and see how much u earn or made (inclusive of inflation and i/r) and see how much better off your money is if u had park it in a bank .. if you are better off.. congrats.. ur a good trader.. no matter how small the profit .. it's still a profit... if you lose.. no matter how much u lose.. ur still a loser... whatever it is.. the main thing is to realize that emotional attachment.. speculating this or that and catching the trend will kill u .. formulate a plan a day before.. stick to it .. and ride it out... why do u think investment bankers start work at 2pm and end 8am? it's to prepare reports for their clients and the traders what to do or follow for the opening market... without preparation.. your f**ked.... if you think you can beat it .. and i'm talking cock.. okay.. good luck to you sir... if not.. please remember what i've said.. i don't want to sound pompous or anything.. after all i'm only 21 years old.... and many of you have eaten more rice then i have ate salt.... but i just don't want you all to cannot eat .. cannot sleep cuase of the money.. i've been there before and it sucks... and i hope that you all make it successful .. whatever strategies you use..

 

Hope i didn't offend anyone.. and cheerios :D 


 




 
 
coolbunny
    15-Nov-2010 17:20  
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Heehee, earn a small profit only. All thanks to this forum. If not I would have sold my GSP long time ago due to panic at a loss. I'm a newbie. Buy & keep when I see profit only.



cannotfind      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:00) Posted:

wow you have a good easter egg.... so good... we are selling salty duck egg in Holland

coolbunny      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 16:58) Posted:

I sold most of my counters too last 2 weeks.

GSP -bought 2.09 / sold 2.13

GAR - bought 0.665 / sold 0.75

Cosco - bought 1.85 / sold 2.07

M1 - bought 2.22 / sold 2.25

MIT - bought 1.17 / still holing on....

GSP & GAR sold early last Fri am after Q3 result announced. I could have sold GSP & GAR earlier at its high but want to hold on after result. Greedy lor. So I think BT sell 1 day before announcement tactic will work .... now maybe looking to re-enter GSP and keep tilll Q4. Noble might be a good choice too.

 



 
 
Noob79
    15-Nov-2010 17:19  
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...me too still holding it... i hope 2.07 is the bottom liao or really will drop to 2....

bladez87      ( Date: 15-Nov-2010 17:11) Posted:

waa piang. i lose until no pants liao

 
 
cannotfind
    15-Nov-2010 17:19  
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The fat lady has sunk the ship.... WHY NO ONE WANTS TO PAKAT TOGETHER?
 
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