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Latest news from NY Times. Thailand’s King Bhumibol Adulyadej Sees His Influence Fading
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/world/asia/16king.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Battle over Thailand’s future is raging, but the one man who has been able to resolve such intractable conflicts in the past has been notably silent: King Bhumibol Adulyadej, long a unifying father figure for his nation........ “It’s much bigger than the issue of succession,” said Charles Keyes, an expert on Thailand at the University of Washington in Seattle. “It’s a collapse of the political consensus that the monarchy has helped maintain.”
As his country suffers through its worst political crisis in decades, the king has disappointed many Thais by saying nothing that might calm the turmoil, as he did in 1973 and 1992 when with a few quiet words he halted eruptions of political bloodletting.
teeth53 thot - Even if the king is willing, his is ailing.
teeth53 thot - Bangkok is teaching the red what is terrorism and terrorist by driving them into under ground. they are expediting teaching to the red. Thai South had their lesson, will the North/North East have one as well ?. Even if the king is willing, his is ailing.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20100516/tap-oukwd-uk-thailand-173a892.html
Soldiers can shoot if protesters come within 36 metres of army lines, said army spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd, adding more soldiers were needed to establish control.
The government insists that some of the protesters are armed with grenades and guns and showed footage on national television in an attempt to bolster their case.
Many protest leaders now face terrorism charges that carry a maximum penalty of death, raising the stakes in a two-month crisis that has paralysed parts of Bangkok.
teeth53 ( Date: 16-May-2010 21:31) Posted:
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Once the king is............more warlord can appear fighting for more power..
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/ap/20100516/tap-as-thailand-politics-10th-ld-7934085.html
Thailand's government says a crackdown on Red Shirt protesters will continue despite plea for U.N-mediated talks by red. (See - Yellow will never give up their power, but counted 30 bodys - dead)
Government spokesman Pa-na-ti says there is no reason for the army to withdraw since "authorities are not using weapons to crack down on wounded civilians."
The government maintains it is only targeting armed "terrorists" among the Red Shirts. those fighting leaves 30 dead, 232 injured
Battle may be fought and won on the fields, this war for winning the hearts and mind has long been dead, for the wounded Thais pple's pride had been broken up and will take another one to two generation to amend back. Yellow will never be giving up their power.
Bless us for we had Dr Goh Keng Swee (RIP liao). last Friday May 14, 2010.
iPunter ( Date: 16-May-2010 19:30) Posted:
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Teeth53 thot - Can they win the war ?, So Abigshit, his DPM and Army chief think so, they can win the battle - war ??., for the heart and mind of Thais pple's ??. As a result of their action to restore order and MORE LIVES WILL BE LOST IN THE PROCESS.
The King is ailing, so is his kingdom, slowly been rewrite into history today Ad 2010, year and date. This generation of Thais will see it kingdom once divided between South and North/North East supporting Bangkok, now it seem North/North East is been push to, like been a corner dog.
hotokee ( Date: 16-May-2010 19:20) Posted:
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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20100516/tap-oukwd-uk-thailand-173a892.html
Thousands of protesters were massing in a separate area in working-class Klong Toey area near the fighting on Rama IV. A new protest site would vastly complicate attempts to end the protests and resolve a crisis that has battered the economy.
"Unless the government cracks down and does so decisively, and that's a big if, we are going to be seeing minor rioting and guerrilla warfare, possibly spreading out to other areas of Bangkok," said the diplomat who declined to be identified.
teeth53 thot - The Thai ruling had oredi done great damaging to it Thais pple's trust. Thus with red highly mobile team. Fire can be very easy-but cannot be contain, esp to other part of central Bangkok.The army can pick and kill one by one. They cannot win this war, yellow can oni win battle, after battle, after battle and not this war.
"I don't see how cutting supplies could be effective," said Karn Yuenyong, director of independent think-tank Siam Intelligence Unit. "It's not an easy task and may not be worth it, especially if protesters can bypass it.",
By the look of things, the situation there should be returning to normalcy soon...
With the leaders on the red side considerably weakened,
and the trouble area well contained by the Army,
and the Thaksin family having left the country...
Perhaps, it's time for stocks to "Cheong Aaarhhh!!!" next week?...
But Europe's now the sore thumb...
The king being the most revered figure should now play his card and play it fast to prevent further loss of innocent lives.
They lack wise advice from advisers. To solve long standing issues, one day not enough. To break a deadlock, no lives needed be sacrificed.
To give way is not a shame of lack of integrity. Both sides must understand the principle of pride and the demands of each. I think the process to return to normalcy is going to be a long drawn out affair if no compromise is made by one side to another with a reciprocal compromise. AND MORE LIVES WILL BE LOST IN THE PROCESS.
teeth53 ( Date: 15-May-2010 18:12) Posted:
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So far none (not even one) is willing-ly to let go certain power in Bangkok for just one and only one reason, the word is...FEARrrrring.
Just wondering when the nation be united again over the next few years or more as the king ail, who once built his kingdom strong and proud, but now it seem kingdom itself is oso ailing. Sad to said.
teeth53 thot - those who rule and those 1 2 rule, we got much lesson to learn, dun let us down.
Lucky Singaporean had Dr Goh Keng Swee to thank for, (A powerful, charismatic leader who is less interested in politic) who has just RIP, who care and feel for our common man. For 50 years, his visionary had shape and strengthen all Singaporeans and is well respected by all.
teeth53 ( Date: 14-Apr-2009 00:14) Posted:
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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20100514/tap-oukwd-uk-thailand-173a892.html
"With gun battles and grenades going off, investors will look elsewhere," said Danny Richards, an analyst at the Economist Intelligence Unit.
"I don't think many see the end of this protest as the end of the crisis. When there's an election, either side will reject the legitimacy of the other and
we'll be back to square one."
teeth53 thot - Red is not a spend force, If even it win in any election, d old rule will stay and (Thais golden era is almost over)
eject them outside the rule if it take many round to cast them aside, since the ruling is not willing, thus it default line is further divided.
teeth53 ( Date: 11-May-2010 22:41) Posted:
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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/ap/20100514/tap-as-thailand-politics-10th-ld-writeth-7934085.html
Soldiers used a loudspeaker to send a message to the Red Shirts:
"We are the people's army. We are just doing our duty for the nation. Brothers and sisters, let's talk together."
teeth53 thot - Thai golden era is almost over, it default line is further divide into a very troublesome precursor to err...deadly problem
Thailand can been seen as making history in itself by been divided North/North East, the Central and South and 4th is those fence sitting and
those rich few players who benefited from PAD rules of d jungle. It is seen that no one is able to solve their politic woes. it will be recorded into history.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1056661/1/.html
"Abhisit has already started civil war,"
Two of the dead appeared to be Red Shirt security guards, said the director of the hospital where they were taken, adding that one victim
was shot in the temple and the other in the chest. The third fatality was a 32-year-old man who died earlier of gunshot wounds.
At least 33 people have been killed. Meanwhile Major-General Khattiya Sawasdipol,
who had been accused of trying to stymie government moves to reconcile with the protesters, was unconscious in the ICU of
Vahira hospital with a head wound. He had a "low" chance of survival, said Chaiwan Charoenchokethavee, the hospital director.
So teeth53 thot - As a Premier. He don't has any initiative left, The poster boy for ruling turn warring warlord,
Poor abigshit is looking for a way, someway w/o offer initiative and has to play hard ball, playing into harden hidden players hands. )
Teeth53 thot - Can they win the war ?, So both think they can win the battle - for the heart and mind of Thais pple's ??.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%932006_Thai_political_crisis
Stories why Thais is leading to what had to be happening in Bangkok today.
Another word - PAD claims and the opposition party that there was an excessive use of force is nothing short of ludicrous. How can we allow Thailand to be ruled by these gangsters who can go around closing whatever areas they want?, when the PAD first took over government house then perhaps we wouldnt be in the mayhem we are in today. PAD obviously wants for there to be blood and conflict. Well now there is, and they've obviously asked for it. The opposition party, being the opportunists that they are, should consider themselves in the shoes of the government. These anarchists must be brought to justice, law-abiding Thai will not put up with the PAD who will take the welfare of this country hostage for their own political agenda.
Rogue general wounded, 1 killed in Bangkok fighting
The emergency center said Gen Khattiya was shot in the head and admitted to a hospital's intensive care unit.
Khattiya Sawasdipol, a suspended army specialist in charge of security for thousands of demonstrators, was shot by an apparent sniper's bullet to the temple and rushed to hospital, the state Narenthorn Emergency Medical Service said.
The shootings sparked half a dozen confrontations between rock-throwing protesters and armed security forces on the outskirts of the 3 sq-km commercial district where red-shirted protesters have barricaded themselves since April 3.
One protester was shot in the eye and died after a group of red shirts confronted soldiers armed with assault rifles next to a park in the Silom business district, witnesses said. Some protesters hurled rocks and troops fired in return.
teeth53 thot - The Thai ruling, authorities has just begin an un-delcare vivil war.
A Abigshit posted boy turn warring war lord.
The opposition "Red Shirts" has given a "clear answer" for peace and for it Nov 14 election.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20100512/tap-oukwd-uk-thailand-173a892.html Thai ruling, authorities postponed their plan
Hours after announcing they would shut off power and cut water supplies from midnight to thousands of anti-govt protesters, saying it would hurt
residents in the ritzy district more than the demonstrators packed with hotels, embassies, businesses, high-end apartments and two public hospitals.
Several diplomats, meet -Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya (Yellow/PAD leading supporter), expressing their concern on
hastily announced measures affecting their embassies, according an Asian diplomatic source present at the meeting.
The protesters said they would survive with their own power generators and food sources.
Attempts to intercept their supplies also risked clashes on the fringes of the area or inside their
sprawling tented camp, where women and children were among about 6,000 protesters. escalate tension and
Severing supplies would have presented a huge logistical challenge and may not have even worked.
teeth53 thot - Thus with highly mobile team. Fire can very easy-lt cannot to contain, esp to other part of central Bankok.
"I don't see how cutting supplies could be effective," said Karn Yuenyong, director of independent think-tank Siam Intelligence Unit.
"It's not an easy task and may not be worth it, especially if protesters can bypass it.",
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1056127/1/.html
| Earlier Wednesday, the govt announced it would cut off food, water and power supplies to the vast rally site in central Bangkok, urging local residents to leave as it prepared to seal off the area to prevent reinforcements arriving. |
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Thai govt "scraps election proposal". but we'll go forward with reconciliation plan," said Korbsak Sabhavasu, the prime minister's secretary-general. Other related Lastest news - Thai authorities to sever protesters' supply lines teeth53 thot - So long it citizens do not has a voice, they will continue voicing and is getting louder. (North, North East, South and from Bangkok who rule is sandwich), now every promises sounded very empty. Those ruling, wanted to rule those who oppose. None (not even one) seen to trust the others, down to every turn. Grand plan for amnesty, bold initiative and promises after all, leaders that lead and damaged by "yellow" on the two airports has broken world record blockaded and at parliament blockaded is a pre-cursor to a state that set it fire rolling Since 2006. some has even earn ministry promotion.
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