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ppl_frankie
    15-Oct-2008 17:12  
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AK_Francis      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 17:10) Posted:

Game over.

hi! 888, which web page r u got d beloe 3 EU market indices?

tks.



XiaoMaGe888      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 16:10) Posted:

FTSE 100 -77.64 -1.77% 4,316.57
XETRA-DAX -102.26 -1.97% 5,096.93
CAC 40 -64.15 -1.77% 3,564.37
HANG SENG -795.73 -4.73% 16,037.15
NIKKEI 225 +99.90 +1.06%


 
 
AK_Francis
    15-Oct-2008 17:10  
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Game over.

hi! 888, which web page r u got d beloe 3 EU market indices?

tks.



XiaoMaGe888      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 16:10) Posted:

FTSE 100 -77.64 -1.77% 4,316.57
XETRA-DAX -102.26 -1.97% 5,096.93
CAC 40 -64.15 -1.77% 3,564.37
HANG SENG -795.73 -4.73% 16,037.15
NIKKEI 225 +99.90 +1.06%


AK_Francis      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 16:06) Posted:

Now HSI(-785) n STI(-76) suddenly down turn sharply. Suspect EU markets are down now. Teletext not updated yet.


 
 
AK_Francis
    15-Oct-2008 16:21  
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tks. EU like that ah, tonite DJ likely chialat liao.

some profit taking unavoidable loh. seems like today pai kan loh. cheers.
 

 
XiaoMaGe888
    15-Oct-2008 16:10  
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FTSE 100 -77.64 -1.77% 4,316.57
XETRA-DAX -102.26 -1.97% 5,096.93
CAC 40 -64.15 -1.77% 3,564.37
HANG SENG -795.73 -4.73% 16,037.15
NIKKEI 225 +99.90 +1.06%


AK_Francis      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 16:06) Posted:

Now HSI(-785) n STI(-76) suddenly down turn sharply. Suspect EU markets are down now. Teletext not updated yet.

 
 
AK_Francis
    15-Oct-2008 16:06  
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Now HSI(-785) n STI(-76) suddenly down turn sharply. Suspect EU markets are down now. Teletext not updated yet.
 
 
left_bug
    15-Oct-2008 15:59  
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All these expert analysis are questionable. Aren't they the one who advocate to buy in the first place? Their calls should always view with care.
 

 
freeme
    15-Oct-2008 15:50  
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haha  u chose a easy path...

mikewb21      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 15:41) Posted:

Citi TP $1.5, CS TP $0.55,I think 1 over estimate and 1 under estimate, so take the middle path, TP should be $1, my 5c thots, vested at $0.8

 
 
mikewb21
    15-Oct-2008 15:41  
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Citi TP $1.5, CS TP $0.55,I think 1 over estimate and 1 under estimate, so take the middle path, TP should be $1, my 5c thots, vested at $0.8
 
 
ekekeg
    15-Oct-2008 15:21  
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The report is from Citigroup Global Markets. Downgraded Cosco to hold high risk. TP $1.50, a slightly more encouraging one than Credit Suisse analysis.
 
 
ekekeg
    15-Oct-2008 15:07  
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14 October 2008  9 pages

 

Cosco Corporation (Singapore) (COSC.SI)

 

Downgrade to Hold: Rig Building Plans Put on Hold

 

v Customer financing challenges Our earlier thesis of Cosco capturing higher

 

value add rig business did not materialise. Customer Sevan Marine appears to

 

be having financing difficulties despite having secured charter contracts from

 

Petrobras. This has impacted Cosco's foray into the rig building segment.

 

v Revise Earnings Estimates We have i) lowered our FY08E-10E new order

 

assumptions to S$1.6-1.8bn from S$3.5-4bn; ii) reduced FY08E-10E gross

 

margin sharply; iii) lowered our assumptions for bulk carrier charter rates by

 

16-53% on weaker BDI. Our FY08E-10E estimates are reduced by 17-43%.

 

v New TP S$1.50 based on SOTP Valuation Our target price is based on i)

 

S$0.99/share for Ship Repair, Offshore & Marine business, based on ~6.5x

 

FY09E PER for the shipyard business (from 14.5x previously) to reflect its lack

 

of progress penetrating the rig building business – a 70% discount over our

 

valuation for Singapore O&M peers; ii) S$0.20/share for the Shipping business

 

in line with yard valuations, iii) net cash of S$0.31/share.

 

v Downgrade to Hold; Raise Risk Rating to “High” We downgrade to “Hold”

 

from “Buy” as valuations appear to have priced in downside risks while positive

 

catalysts have yet to emerge. We increase the risk rating from Low to High Risk

 

for Cosco Corp, in line with our quantitative risk rating system.

 

v Please see our sector report: "Industry Risks Heightened Amid Credit Crunch"

 

dated 14 Oct 2008 for more details.

 
Figure 1. Cosco Corp – Statistical Abtract

 

 
XiaoMaGe888
    15-Oct-2008 15:04  
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Which analyst ? May be there want to sale their cosco share. "MAY BE "

ekekeg      ( Date: 15-Oct-2008 14:58) Posted:



Why there are another analyst report to hold and fair price $1.50 per share?

I already shorted so many lots, then the report comes in, say to hold. How now?

 
 
ekekeg
    15-Oct-2008 14:58  
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Why there are another analyst report to hold and fair price $1.50 per share?

I already shorted so many lots, then the report comes in, say to hold. How now?
 
 
sgdividends
    15-Oct-2008 14:35  
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yeah dude sentiment is indeed bearish!

But for the long term and if it doesnt collaspe...sweet stuff.
 
 
goondoo
    15-Oct-2008 14:26  
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Haiz, now we can't even trust STI index stock.

 
 
 
saturn
    15-Oct-2008 14:15  
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Another good stock goes down the drain.

Almost wanted to buy @$1 ytr.... Luckily never.

Phew...............................
 

 
goondoo
    15-Oct-2008 14:00  
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Put simply, everyone has totally lost confidence on China stocks completely.

Does not matter how the balance sheet look.

Even if it is trading at P/E 1 and dividend 30% oso useless.
 
 
yunglee
    15-Oct-2008 13:23  
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trade receivable and inventories not equal cash...

 there are still some risk... base on blanance shet alone especially if shipping companies are falling one by one..
 
 
sgdividends
    15-Oct-2008 13:00  
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Is it justified, guys?

source: www.sgdividends.blogspot.com

Cosco..Another China Counter Being Beaten Down..Is It Justified?

We noted the beating of Cosco today. As of now 12.30pm ...trading between a range 0.94 - 0.76.Wow. We noted that DMG gave a sell call of this counter...stating some reasons and more reasons and much more reasons..qualitatively..which is true actually. We noted also BT had a report on it with Credit Suisse saying something about drifting lower.

But, let's take a step back..clear our heads a bit, relax..and think simply, shall we? Let's look at some quantitative figures....

Net Profit Margin: 18.71 % ( Ok still some room to maneurvure if demand sucks or supply sucks, compare again with Ferrochina.!)
Debt repayment ability (sorry we refuse to use jargon, bear with us ok!): CA less than CL. ( Hmm but its not that much of a shortfall. not like Ferrochina!)

Cash Flow Muscle: Pretty strong. As you see its Cash from Operations has been positive since 2003 and guess what..even after netting off capital expenditure ( the expenditure needed to sustain this business..in simplified terms) its still positive! ( Some people call it free cash flow..a jargon we prefer not to use) . This is a good sign!
SGDividends: Why are we wasting our time on this report? Cos here are SGDiviedends, we refuse to take Analysts reports seriously, Credit Suiise, DMG..blah blah blah... Look at the company's numbers first(MOST IMPT)..take care of its downside first..before using reasons like order book, economy slowdown,risk of order cancellation, delivery delays( which are of cos darn impt too) but kinda fluffy dont you think.
Our recommendation: Your Guess is as good as mine? Decide for yourself!
 
 
ilovebull
    15-Oct-2008 12:49  
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Yesterday I was very tempted to buy at $1.00 but luckily didnt... Phew !
 
 
XiaoMaGe888
    15-Oct-2008 12:01  
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