
Livermore,
New refineries might be coming online soon.
Bear in mind that any reasonable sized refinery takes approx 4-5 years to come onstream from planning to operation. At today's construction cost, these new refineries will have to charge a much higher refining margin (some reports put it at about USD20 per bbl) to be commercially viable. So, its a Catch 22 situation.
Sure, a recession is technically defined as two quarters of negative GDP, but "you can throw that model out," he says. "I think it's defined by the man in the street a little differently than whether there's been two quarters of reported (negative) GDP growth. We're in a recession, unless you want to stick strictly to the technical definition, which I think really doesn't have much meaning to the fellow who has lost his job or is facing a money market fund that isn't paying him out or whatever it may be."
Worse, this won't be your typical, average 216-day recession. "My general feeling is that the recession will be longer and deeper than most people think. This will not be short and shallow. I think consumers are feeling gas and food prices and not feeling they've got a lot of money for other things."
So, imagine what happens when and if record oil prices skyrocket to $200 a barrel and pump prices rise to $10 a gallon... By then, we could be talking about the early stages of a depression.
Wall Street Oil Prediction: More Record Prices
It was January 2008 when options to buy oil for $200 a barrel grew tenfold on the NYMEX.
The trade doesn't look so foolish any more.
If you thought T. Boone Pickens' $125 oil prediction was a shock, CIBC World Markets' chief economist Jeff Rubin is predicting $200 oil in the next five years.
Oil production, says Rubin, will "barely grow over the next five years, edging up barely more than 1-million barrels a day over the next three years, and only half a million barrels a day between 2010 and 2012." And those increases could fall short of demand, leading to $150 barrel oil by 2010, and $200 a barrel by 2012.
And Rubin isn't the only analyst calling it.
OPEC President Chakib Khelil won't rule out $200 oil, even though supply is adequate, because the market is driven by the dollar, as the world oil markets face their biggest supply disruption in years. "In terms of fundamentals, stocks are high, demand is easing, supply is satisfactory. Therefore normally, without geo-political problems and the fall of the dollar, the prices of oil would not be at this level," he said.
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Some parts of the U.S., including New York City are seeing $4 a gallon. One station is California is already charging a jaw-dropping $4.62. And here I was damning a $3.56 pump near my home.
New forecasts, however, say pump prices could reach as high as $10 a gallon.
Dune
Based on Q1 2008 earnings report, downstream business contributed $81.8M or 68% of the total operating profit. Upstream operating profit was at $38.2M or 32%. Relisation for the quarter is at US$98.47. Profit margin for upstream is at a whopping 40.6%
Thus unlike in the past year, the contribution from upstream is significant and the effect of increasing oil price will mean higher profit margin. Also fyi profit margin for April is very good.
ozone2002 ( Date: 29-Apr-2008 09:43) Posted:
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why does everybody think that oil up means SPC make more money????????????
they are refiners! margins still subjected to volatility of the oil prices... n only a small % of revenue is from exploration!
At 9, while watching Kepcorp diving, prompted SPC done at 7.27. Leow chou, no time to withdraw as I Q it 10bids higher for contra yesterday after preclosed. Consolation loh.
louislauwm ( Date: 29-Apr-2008 09:13) Posted:
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Today were meant for those bought at 7.66 and tomorrow is meant for those bought at 7.74. But those bought at 7.74 already knee jerking and possibly panic selling late morning and when market reopened after lunch.
Longed at 7.04 around 11am and contra out at 7.18 the previous lots bought at 7.66, during show time. Still keeping those vested one. See how thing goes loh, as 1 May is public holiday. Following day Fri is not a good day for trading, except shorting should DJ under performed on Thu nite at Wall Street.
Haha. As AK mentioned, Green mountain can change but character not. Do you agree? *Wink*
was 20c last yr interim
good money
ended 7.17
hope tmrw no more onslaught.. these people who play contra are looking to close out possie
interim div normally how much?? next qrt result will be ard Aug?? hopefully px stay put above 7

