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idesa168
    12-May-2008 12:39  
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This fellow is definitely going no where...trading between 7.20-7.30....those who dare to trade this range should be making 10¢ each round of up and down. I am sideline....cheers!
 
 
AK_Francis
    12-May-2008 10:56  
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Low vol. Likely, it will hovering around morning price. Ha ha, could be possible investers marching to the banks to collect its div leow.
 
 
Livermore
    12-May-2008 07:23  
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Arju Murti Was Right... And So Were We.

By Ian Cooper | Saturday, May 10th, 2008



Murti's the Goldman Sachs guy that called for the unprecedented move above $100 just three years ago.

And how did Wall Street react?

They laughed at him, thinking it was nothing more than a Goldman publicity stunt. He first predicted a rise above $105 back in March 2005, as oil traded around $60.

 

Oil Chart May 2008

 

 

Yep, for the better part of three years, his call was ridiculed. Even as oil made a pass at $70, $80, $90, $100, $105... even $110, all we heard was how the price of crude would soon collapse, as they laughed at Murti.

But Murti wasn't laughing. It was no joke. And he wasn't alone in his thinking. We called it, too, right here in Energy and Capital.

"...heck you can kiss $45 a barrel goodbye... maybe even $50! In fact, we're probably facing a price spike between $80 to $100 a barrel within the next 24 months," said Brian Hicks in January 18, 2006.

"Our resident energy expert, Mike Schaefer, believes that oil prices will continue its rise... heading to at least $80 near term... then to $105 a barrel in the next 3 years." - February 7, 2006

"...I think these estimates are a bit on the conservative side, and we should see $80 oil this year, no problem."- Chris Nelder, January 18, 2007.

But we don't expect Wall Street to recognize that. They're too embarrassed, as are the "experts."

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What the "Experts" Said...

"I'll make a bold prediction... in 12 months, you're going to see oil down to 35-40 usd a barrel," said Steve Forbes in August 2005.... He was WRONG.

"It's a little hard to explain why the oil price is as high as it is at the moment, because there's plenty of oil and oil products around- it's not as if there's a shortage," said Shell UK Chairman James Smith in October 2007... He was WRONG.

"Veteran oil analyst Charles Maxwell of Weedon & Co. notes that there is also a fundamental reason to expect stagnant-to-lower prices. Demand in the biggest energy-consuming nation, the U.S., seems to be moderating," said BusinessWeek in August 2006... WRONG.

"If this market can continue going lower without OPEC disrupting it, it's very possible that by 2010 we could be substantially lower than anyone is imagining. Four to 8 years from now, we could come down and break $20 a barrel," said Peter Beutel, an old analyst at Cameron Hanover, in August 2007..

And he was embarrassingly WRONG.

In 2006, Cambridge Energy Research Associates, Inc. (CERA) said, "This is the fifth time that the world is said to be running out of oil," says CERA Chairman Daniel Yergin. "It is no longer sensible to allow the issues about future supplies to be clouded in a debate grounded in a flawed technical argument."

And they were WRONG.

 

 
shplayer
    11-May-2008 15:48  
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Perhaps market is concerned that there may be a repetition of 3Q06....when crude prices which went up too fast, came down as fast catching SPC with high priced inventory which it had to take a $71m writedown.  

tanglinboy      ( Date: 11-May-2008 11:07) Posted:

SPC price trend doesn't seem correlated to oil price. Strange.

 
 
tanglinboy
    11-May-2008 11:07  
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SPC price trend doesn't seem correlated to oil price. Strange.
 
 
AK_Francis
    11-May-2008 00:49  
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The moral of the story is ???? buy n keep loh right??? What price??? When???

AK view is , just buy one lot, if u can affort, next Mon. Any price, lower than 7.25
 

 
Livermore
    10-May-2008 22:05  
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The Truth about Oil, Part 2



By Mike Schaefer
Friday, January 12th, 2007


JACKSON, WY - Like I mention in Tuesday's Energy and Capital, since 1859, we have consumed 1.5 trillion barrels of oil. And with our forecasted rate of consumption, it will take only 20 years to consume another 1.5 trillion. In the past two years alone we've consumed over 60 billion barrels of oil-and that rate's about to take off.

The number of "giant" oil field discoveries has declined dramatically since the 1960s. The large reserves and production capability of these fields are essential to increase world oil production; the combined output of smaller oil fields serves at best to offset declines in the older giants. Unfortunately, since 1990, there have been few giants discovered in the world-a total of 35-and none of these has a production capability above one million barrels per day.

Before the 2006 "Jack" oil field discovery, which we all know has problems of its own, the last confirmed giant find occurred in 2003 off the Brazilian shore. But the oil found there contains mostly heavy (dirty) oil and is not expected to come on-line until 2011.

Although it's a sizable find, the 700 million-barrel Papa-Terra field lies in almost 4,000 feet of water (Jack is under 7,000 feet of water, and more than 20,000 feet under the sea floor.) Curiously, both the Papa-Terra and Jack discoveries caused Big Oil to jump for joy like a fifth-grader getting a snow day.

The size of the Jack field is still to be determined. But to put the size of Papa-Terra into context, at current global oil consumption rates, that amount of oil is consumed every 8.3 days! The world needs many more giants just to replace the consumed reserves. And we aren't coming close. In fact, we would need 85 Papa-Terras to make up for global consumption over the last two years.

The world's largest oil field, Ghawar in Saudi Arabia, was discovered in 1948 and currently produces approximately 4.5 million barrels per day. With an estimated 60-70 billion barrels in remaining reserves, it could continue producing for several decades, but nothing of its size has been discovered since. The importance of Ghawar and other older giant fields to global oil production can not be overstated.

Twenty years ago, 15 fields had the capacity to produce more than one million barrels per day. Today only four fields can produce that much:
  • Ghawar (Saudi Arabia)
  • Kirkuk (Iraq)
  • Burgan (Kuwait)
  • Cantarell (Mexico)


But I'm only getting started. You see, it gets worse-much worse . . .

The Last Domino Is About to Fall

There's an issue that has the world's finest geologists, physicists and investment bankers as nervous as an agoraphobic in Central Park.

These rational and conservative professionals are absolutely terrified by the fact that there soon won't be enough oil to keep the world's economies running. And the fear is spreading faster than the panic after an Orson Welles broadcast.

The reason for their terror starts with an indisputable fact . . .

Oil production follows a bell curve. But demand only increases.


As much as some may dream, oil is not renewable. It works like this:

Every year following the peak of oil production (believed to have happened already by highly respected researchers, geologists and investment bankers like Matthew Simmons), the world's output will go into steady decline. And the rate of decline is staggering . . . as much as 10% a year! And this isn't just a one-field observation. It is true for every oil-producing country and the world as a whole.

Assuming, for simplicity's sake, that the world reached its peak oil production back in 2005, that would mean that by 2025 there would be as much oil produced as there was in 1985. Fine, there was a lot of oil for the world in 1985. Only there's a slight hitch.

By 2025, the world's demand for oil is going to be 60% greater than it is today, while production capacity is thrown back to 1985 levels. This is due to the world's rapidly growing population and increasing industrialization. China's annual oil consumption growth rate of 7.5% and India's of 5.5% are both expected to take a quantum leap over the next decade.


It's easy to see there's trouble ahead. But rising demand is only a tiny part of our problem.
 
 
AK_Francis
    09-May-2008 08:44  
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Tks watch dog. Sama, sama, its a good stock. Still keep few lah. AK down loaded half Kepld and SPC to sw to SingTel. Cheers.
 
 
idesa168
    09-May-2008 08:42  
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If Oil price is going to stay up there so high, it's not going to benefit SPC much other than the upstream activities which is still a small percentage contribution to their overall earning. This does not spell good for SPC so far....I am still holding on to my 2 lots, hoping oil will stablise soon....
 
 
arowana1
    09-May-2008 08:21  
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spc forgotten liao?

imho, chart showing signs of bottom and start of uptrend?
 

 
idesa168
    06-May-2008 15:22  
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dun be despair...akan datang...."every move you made, I will be watching you" - by Police...hehehe!!! With this burger, needs to practise some patience....I am confident we can see that day...cheers!

AK_Francis      ( Date: 06-May-2008 09:42) Posted:

Vol low, needs more support leow. Same thinking as Idesa, dump most and thinking to buy back low, but didn't happen. Sigh. This few days peow SingTel leow, wack the burger, when time is right, b4 14. Cheers.

 
 
AK_Francis
    06-May-2008 09:42  
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Vol low, needs more support leow. Same thinking as Idesa, dump most and thinking to buy back low, but didn't happen. Sigh. This few days peow SingTel leow, wack the burger, when time is right, b4 14. Cheers.
 
 
ozone2002
    06-May-2008 09:34  
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buy signal!!!!!!!look at ur technical indicators.. time for entry
 
 
Livermore
    05-May-2008 20:37  
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Upside likely for commodity plays

Commodity-sensitive stocks look to have upside. Energy and mining stocks in particular are lagging their respective resource prices and will benefit from "catching up". Although oil prices may soften in the short run, the long term trend is likely to remain up. The basic dynamic is an uptrend in global oil consumption with a downtrend in global oil discoveries.

For investors that prefer to focus on soft commodities (avoiding oil and gold) Castlestone Aliquot Agriculture Fund is now trading. The fund is an actively managed combination of agriculture related commodities such as wheat, soybean, rice, palm oil, corn and sugar.

 

 
 
idesa168
    02-May-2008 21:44  
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Fund in Jardine liao, no extra liao! Plus liquidate @7.36, buy back @7.28...mmm, not so smart right!...lol. Anyway, if SPC is not coming down, I will chase the run-away price, like that margin boh liao! I will stay with the Jardin then, it's not bad an investment compare to SPC....both companies are good dark blue black chip...hehehe!!!

L.....      ( Date: 02-May-2008 21:23) Posted:



sorry boss if u wont be happy

not too late to accumlate some now..

 

 
L.....
    02-May-2008 21:23  
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sorry boss if u wont be happy

not too late to accumlate some now..
 
 
idesa168
    02-May-2008 21:15  
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Crude Oil up or down, SPC kept inching up day by day. Looks like it's going to try the recent $8.00. I wun be much happy if so, although I still have some holding in SPC, but bcos I had released half my holding @$7.36 in anticipation to collect at sub-$7.00...
 
 
L.....
    02-May-2008 19:01  
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if oil futures is down, SPC can still receive physical delivery of oil if they are long the possie. meaning they need not sell oil futures (which is lower price in mkt) and suffer a lose when closing out the possie... thats what im talking abt..

and being an upstream and downstream process for oil, means they stand to gain from either way oils go, if they are adequately hedged...

 
 
 
jkbk007
    02-May-2008 18:49  
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Surprise, surprise SPC end up ===> SPC follow oil price is a myth?!?!!
 
 
L.....
    02-May-2008 10:09  
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SPC being long OIL is natural hedger agst short OIL futures possie. plse note they can deliver physical oil

 

 
 
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