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louis_leecs
    28-Sep-2010 23:39  
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short position already carry on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but look like covering soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they earn liao,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wait for rebound soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or another wave to headed south,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all i know all naked swim,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so im prefergo to bukit timah hill
 
 
moneybear
    28-Sep-2010 23:27  
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CEO and his investment banking games again...

BrandonTeo      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 20:55) Posted:



WILL CONTINUE TO FALL......TOMORROW....IS ON SALE NOW!!!!  THE CEO IS UNLOADING THE SHARES NOW.......Smiley

LET IT GOES, CATCH ...LATER.......RUN!!!

 
 
stevSG
    28-Sep-2010 23:20  
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yup. partially agree.

depends e person trading style and tactics.

btw crystal1818 you bought alot?! see tmr market if still fall beyond $0.40 better ask yourself do u need the money before November 29, 2010 .

if your stamina can last, pray hard that Genting HK  report Q3 2010 results will be good.

pray for millionaires to loss $$ in the cruise casino like the RWS poor guy lost $26mil.

=) 
 

 
des_khor
    28-Sep-2010 23:12  
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Mid to long term investor buy only when people still not interested in the conuter..... at this price I can say is day trader , sepeculater , punter and BB P&D price.... good luck !
 
 
crystal1818
    28-Sep-2010 23:04  
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Oh no, I'm still holding at 0.505 instead of cutting loss as I'm a mid term investor.

Thinking to hold till it reaches 0.50 again. Is it a wise choice? Thanks for the guidance.  

 



cannotfind      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 21:41) Posted:



Still don't run, bllleeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddddddddd

DBS Vickers maintained its "buy" rating and target price of $2.36 for Genting Singapore. It does not have a rating for Genting Hong Kong, but it said current valuation for the firm looks expensive and its target price estimate is about $0.37

 
 
cannotfind
    28-Sep-2010 21:41  
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Still don't run, bllleeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddddddddd

DBS Vickers maintained its "buy" rating and target price of $2.36 for Genting Singapore. It does not have a rating for Genting Hong Kong, but it said current valuation for the firm looks expensive and its target price estimate is about $0.37
 

 
des_khor
    28-Sep-2010 21:07  
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As I said... don't chase stocks !! if can't control hand itchy remember in out must be very fast....
 
 
BrandonTeo
    28-Sep-2010 20:55  
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WILL CONTINUE TO FALL......TOMORROW....IS ON SALE NOW!!!!  THE CEO IS UNLOADING THE SHARES NOW.......Smiley

LET IT GOES, CATCH ...LATER.......RUN!!!
 
 
stevSG
    28-Sep-2010 18:43  
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 Have faith, hold on!!!

Investing in stock is not a child toy. Is a instrument that helps business growth. Investors invest their money in share,  all are allocated into a pool of funds for the business development plan. When there's a fall in prices means the business is either losing money to cover up the losses or using certain part of the money for investment. There many factors that will definitely affect the price index.  If u invest by just spectaculing or listen to either inner voice or ppl opinion. I could only say u r high risk dumb investor. 

In the current situation, if the share u bought making loss,  u can either put it on sales reduce pay exp lesson or change ur investing tactics to long term investing than short investing. Have faith in penny stock and young companies. Penny stock price flucation very fast depends on big buyers. Common investing penny stock using buy low sell high unless either ur prediction r good or u always face e screen or reading the incides everyday. This will cause u to face emotion stress and make irrational decision. To invest in anything u have to have faith and confident on the thing u are going to put ur hard earn money in. Lossing money without proper understanding and playing contra u r playing fire with your hands. Lossing money with proper research,  u might have slight misjudgement or calculation of the firm, u will feel bad but not as bad without knowing where e hell your money goes to.
 
 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 18:38  
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Traditionally

GENTING  HK

has  a  GHOST BEAR

whIch  cUstOmary  rIdes  On  the back Of

ALL  the  WEAK  BULLS

whenever  there  is  any  negatIve  IssUe

Or  whenever  the  main market sentIment  is  negatIve.

 
 

 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 18:33  
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thanks for the wake up call

epliew      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 18:29) Posted:

fall from 0.55 to 0.43 -  better wake up !

pharoah88      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:34) Posted:



Tuesday: 28 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.430
-0.045 -9.5 140,615,000 2,351,000 0.430 0.435 1,772,000 0.475 0.475 0.480 0.425   M    
GENTING BHD 3182 i XD MYR 9.880
+0.110 +1.1 6,975,600 2,000 9.850 9.880 85,400 9.760 9.770 9.960 9.690 --
GENTING MYS BHD 4715 i XD MYR 3.410
-0.080 -2.3 6,936,600 117,100 3.400 3.410 91,100 3.490 3.490 3.490 3.400 --
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.950
-0.070 -3.5 169,089,000 2,466,000 1.950 1.960 3,485,000 2.000 2.020 2.020 1.930   M    
GentingSMBLeCW120402 J2UW i -- SGD 0.225
-0.025 -10.0 5,045,000 30,000 0.225 0.245 40,000 0.245 0.250 0.245 0.225   M    
GentingSMBLeCW130103 L2PW i -- SGD 0.185
-0.015 -7.5 280,000 100,000 0.140 0.190 30,000 0.190 0.200 0.190 0.185 --
GentingSMBLeCW130104 L7KW i -- SGD 0.150
-0.010 -6.2 1,000 15,000 0.140 0.175 10,000 0.150 0.160 0.150 0.150 --
GentingSMBLeCW130603 L0QW i -- SGD 0.245
-0.015 -5.8 92,000 2,000 0.245 0.260 65,000 0.260 0.260 0.260 0.245   M    


 

as lOng  as  GENTING  BERHAD  Is  rIsIng

GENTING  TWINS  cannOt  fall  fOr  tOO  lOng  ?

dO  the  fUnds  nEEd  tO  wIndOw  dress  on  30 SEP 2010 ?


 
 
epliew
    28-Sep-2010 18:29  
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fall from 0.55 to 0.43 -  better wake up !

pharoah88      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:34) Posted:



Tuesday: 28 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.430
-0.045 -9.5 140,615,000 2,351,000 0.430 0.435 1,772,000 0.475 0.475 0.480 0.425   M    
GENTING BHD 3182 i XD MYR 9.880
+0.110 +1.1 6,975,600 2,000 9.850 9.880 85,400 9.760 9.770 9.960 9.690 --
GENTING MYS BHD 4715 i XD MYR 3.410
-0.080 -2.3 6,936,600 117,100 3.400 3.410 91,100 3.490 3.490 3.490 3.400 --
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.950
-0.070 -3.5 169,089,000 2,466,000 1.950 1.960 3,485,000 2.000 2.020 2.020 1.930   M    
GentingSMBLeCW120402 J2UW i -- SGD 0.225
-0.025 -10.0 5,045,000 30,000 0.225 0.245 40,000 0.245 0.250 0.245 0.225   M    
GentingSMBLeCW130103 L2PW i -- SGD 0.185
-0.015 -7.5 280,000 100,000 0.140 0.190 30,000 0.190 0.200 0.190 0.185 --
GentingSMBLeCW130104 L7KW i -- SGD 0.150
-0.010 -6.2 1,000 15,000 0.140 0.175 10,000 0.150 0.160 0.150 0.150 --
GentingSMBLeCW130603 L0QW i -- SGD 0.245
-0.015 -5.8 92,000 2,000 0.245 0.260 65,000 0.260 0.260 0.260 0.245   M    


 

as lOng  as  GENTING  BERHAD  Is  rIsIng

GENTING  TWINS  cannOt  fall  fOr  tOO  lOng  ?

dO  the  fUnds  nEEd  tO  wIndOw  dress  on  30 SEP 2010 ?

 
 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 17:34  
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Tuesday: 28 SEPTEMBER 2010  CLOSING

e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.430
-0.045 -9.5 140,615,000 2,351,000 0.430 0.435 1,772,000 0.475 0.475 0.480 0.425   M    
GENTING BHD 3182 i XD MYR 9.880
+0.110 +1.1 6,975,600 2,000 9.850 9.880 85,400 9.760 9.770 9.960 9.690 --
GENTING MYS BHD 4715 i XD MYR 3.410
-0.080 -2.3 6,936,600 117,100 3.400 3.410 91,100 3.490 3.490 3.490 3.400 --
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.950
-0.070 -3.5 169,089,000 2,466,000 1.950 1.960 3,485,000 2.000 2.020 2.020 1.930   M    
GentingSMBLeCW120402 J2UW i -- SGD 0.225
-0.025 -10.0 5,045,000 30,000 0.225 0.245 40,000 0.245 0.250 0.245 0.225   M    
GentingSMBLeCW130103 L2PW i -- SGD 0.185
-0.015 -7.5 280,000 100,000 0.140 0.190 30,000 0.190 0.200 0.190 0.185 --
GentingSMBLeCW130104 L7KW i -- SGD 0.150
-0.010 -6.2 1,000 15,000 0.140 0.175 10,000 0.150 0.160 0.150 0.150 --
GentingSMBLeCW130603 L0QW i -- SGD 0.245
-0.015 -5.8 92,000 2,000 0.245 0.260 65,000 0.260 0.260 0.260 0.245   M    


 

as lOng  as  GENTING  BERHAD  Is  rIsIng

GENTING  TWINS  cannOt  fall  fOr  tOO  lOng  ?

dO  the  fUnds  nEEd  tO  wIndOw  dress  on  30 SEP 2010 ?
 
 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 17:28  
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dO  yOU  hOld  GENTING  BERHAD  ?

It  wIll  bebefIt  frOm  EVERYTHING

regardless Of  ANYTHING
 
 
crystal1818
    28-Sep-2010 17:26  
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I'm still holding as I bought at 0.505. :(

Will it rise again?



niuyear      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:15) Posted:

cut loss at 0.500. last week.     bought at 0.525

des_khor      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:11) Posted:

Anyone still holding cost price above 50 cents ?? DDDDDDOn't chase stock.....


 

 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 17:25  
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Moreover, Genting Hong Kong still has a very large but barely profitable cruise business. Will the company shunt this business to its parent or another company in the group as Genting Singapore did with Genting UK? Or, will it be its 50% stake in RWM that is eventually hived off elsewhere? With the Genting group’s history of asset-shuffling, it’s impossible to tell. Interestingly, the family of the late Lim Goh Tong owns a much larger proportion of Genting Hong Kong than Genting Singapore, 79.7% versus a deemed 51.7% stake in Genting Singapore through Genting Bhd.
 
Also, officials at Genting Hong Kong are clearly eager to promote the company, actively engaging investors through local securities firms. In fact, one local brokerage firm chartered a private jet to fly 10 fund managers to RWM for an overnight visit last week. And, if they liked what they saw, the positive buzz around Genting Hong Kong may well continue in the weeks ahead.


tradermonster      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:09) Posted:

THE NEXT GENTING SINGAPORE?


 

Source: Bloomberg



 
Genting Hong Kong hasn’t yet shed its concept stock image, and is still in the process of being “discovered” by the market. Formerly known as Star Cruises, the company has been trying to recast itself as an up-and-coming casino play in the vein of Genting Singapore. It owns a 50% stake in Resorts World Manila (RWM), which opened in August 2009 and is now apparently seeing its revenues surge.
 
The full cost of developing RWM is said to be just US$550 million, a fraction of the $6.5 billion that Genting Singapore spent here. Yet, when it is completed, the Manila property could dwarf what Genting Singapore has built on Sentosa. To date, only 213 tables and 1,200 slot machines are operational in Manila and the resort is 55% completed. This month, a third gaming floor will be commissioned, hosting an extra 40 to 50 tables.
 
RWM has already opened the Maxim’s Hotel, and will be completing the Crockfords Villas soon. In addition, some 30,000 sq m of retail space is being opened and a 1,500-seat theatre has been commissioned. The 712-room Remington Condotel will open in 1Q2011. “These ancillary facilities should meaningfully lift daily visitorship from the 6,500 to 7,000 presently,” says local research house UOB KayHian in a recent report.
 
By year-end, 300 tables and 1,300 slot machines will likely be up and running. RWM will have 2,000 tables and 7,000 slot machines when fully completed. Moreover, RWM is just across the highway from the soon-to-be-opened Ninoy Aquino International Airport’s new terminal. Genting Hong Kong is exploring the construction of a walkway connecting RWM to the airport with the airport authority, UOB Kay- Hian says.
 
For 1H2010, Genting Hong Kong reported Ebitda of US$50.5 million. According to the UOB KayHian report, Genting Hong Kong received about US$10 million in dividends from RWM. Assuming Genting Hong Kong achieves a similar Ebitda in 2H2010, its shares are now trading at a EV/Ebitda valuation of 42.6 times. But analysts say Genting Hong Kong’s management is actually guiding for a much higher Ebitda of US$156 million this year, rising to US$200 million in FY2011. That would put its FY2010 and FY2011 EV/Ebitda ratios at 27.6 and 21.5 times, respectively.

COMPETITION, ASSET SHUFFLING RISKS
On the face of it, the somewhat higher valuations of Genting Hong Kong’s shares versus Genting Singapore might be justified, given the former’s possibly stronger growth potential. But shareholders of Genting Hong Kong face many more unfathomable risks than those of Genting Singapore. For one thing, RWM faces more competition. According to UOB Kay- Hian, there are three other mega casinos in Manila Bay that are scheduled to start operating in 4Q2012.
 
Moreover, Genting Hong Kong still has a very large but barely profitable cruise business. Will the company shunt this business to its parent or another company in the group as Genting Singapore did with Genting UK? Or, will it be its 50% stake in RWM that is eventually hived off elsewhere? With the Genting group’s history of asset-shuffling, it’s impossible to tell. Interestingly, the family of the late Lim Goh Tong owns a much larger proportion of Genting Hong Kong than Genting Singapore, 79.7% versus a deemed 51.7% stake in Genting Singapore through Genting Bhd.
 
Also, officials at Genting Hong Kong are clearly eager to promote the company, actively engaging investors through local securities firms. In fact, one local brokerage firm chartered a private jet to fly 10 fund managers to RWM for an overnight visit last week. And, if they liked what they saw, the positive buzz around Genting Hong Kong may well continue in the weeks ahead.

 
 
spicy88
    28-Sep-2010 17:22  
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losers are the towkay-towkay men or street men? Em...even for long term hold, still need to go with the wave of up and down. and looks like the fund men did not hyped up what they see...that's why whirlpool picture posted by pharoah88 last week...

I wonder if he were one of those 10 fund men went visiting....? Nonetheless good learning over the past 4 weeks. Paper trading is still safer afterall...
 
 
niuyear
    28-Sep-2010 17:17  
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sold my earlier lots bought at 0.38 .   made profits.    

then, re-entered  0.525, cut loss 0.500.



niuyear      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:15) Posted:

cut loss at 0.500. last week.     bought at 0.525

des_khor      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:11) Posted:

Anyone still holding cost price above 50 cents ?? DDDDDDOn't chase stock.....


 
 
niuyear
    28-Sep-2010 17:15  
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cut loss at 0.500. last week.     bought at 0.525

des_khor      ( Date: 28-Sep-2010 17:11) Posted:

Anyone still holding cost price above 50 cents ?? DDDDDDOn't chase stock.....

 
 
pharoah88
    28-Sep-2010 17:14  
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Stock Code i Rmk Ccy Last $Chng %Chng Vol Buy Vol Buy Sell Sell Vol Open Previous Day Hi Day Lo Ind
THBEV Y92 i -- SGD 0.290
+0.005 +1.8 310,121,000 8,740,000 0.285 0.290 2,654,000 0.285 0.285 0.300 0.285   M    
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 1.950
-0.070 -3.5 169,089,000 2,466,000 1.950 1.960 3,485,000 2.000 2.020 2.020 1.930   M    
e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.430
-0.045 -9.5 140,615,000 2,351,000 0.430 0.435 1,772,000 0.475 0.475 0.480 0.425   M    
Informatics I03 i -- SGD 0.170
-0.005 -2.9 84,322,000 11,216,000 0.170 0.175 3,831,000 0.180 0.175 0.185 0.170 C      
UniFiber P30 i -- SGD 0.055
-0.010 -15.4 81,532,000 26,088,000 0.055 0.060 10,631,000 0.065 0.065 0.065 0.055 C,M   
 
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