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shipping expected recovery only in around mid 2014.
gavinl ( Date: 15-May-2013 10:47) Posted:
Ok,i listen to you and load lower.Actually,you are quite a kind soul.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 15-May-2013 10:23) Posted:
Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Wait patiently, load below 85, 80, 75, 70 .............. The more patient you are, the lower price that you can load. Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No sign of recovery, no contracts were signed, revenue and profit will drop drop drop. Why so ganjiong to load. Wahahahaha!!!!!!! |
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Ok,i listen to you and load lower.Actually,you are quite a kind soul.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 15-May-2013 10:23) Posted:
Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Wait patiently, load below 85, 80, 75, 70 .............. The more patient you are, the lower price that you can load. Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No sign of recovery, no contracts were signed, revenue and profit will drop drop drop. Why so ganjiong to load. Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!
oldflyingfox ( Date: 15-May-2013 10:14) Posted:
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oh, missed the chances to load at 0.86 this morning. Things really moving fast. |
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Most market is uptrend, Shortist has no stock to short except for Shipping Counters they short at 88 then Q to buy back at 87 or 86.5, its naked short. They are feeding on panick investor and some will try to get investor to panic then they earn. They cover back the same day, make or loose. No real sell down here. So when a little improvement you will see a steep climb like before. So vested in now and wait for the profit to come. Making 50% to 100% since year 2008. Just buy at low now and wait for 1.80 to 2.0 in a year to 5 years with 100% profit and yearly dividend, its worth it.
Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Wait patiently, load below 85, 80, 75, 70 .............. The more patient you are, the lower price that you can load. Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No sign of recovery, no contracts were signed, revenue and profit will drop drop drop. Why so ganjiong to load. Wahahahaha!!!!!!!!
oldflyingfox ( Date: 15-May-2013 10:14) Posted:
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oh, missed the chances to load at 0.86 this morning. Things really moving fast. |
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oh, missed the chances to load at 0.86 this morning. Things really moving fast.
No more q for today.
See how's the trend before selling my Genting SP.
U so lucky, mine @ 865
Flyordie ( Date: 15-May-2013 09:46) Posted:
Round 2 filled at 0.86 (5 lots)
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Round 2 filled at 0.86 (5 lots)
Knn, dropped again.
Dropped every 1 cent i will buy 10 lots .
Lol
Wahaha! !!!!!! When YZJ above 1, all got confidence that it will raise higher, now drop below 90, all want to wait till next year or 2 year later. Wahahaha!!!!!
Only those smart one, wait and load below 70cents. Wahahaha! !!!!! Enjoy the depreciation in next few quarters, frogs!!!!!! Wahahaha!!!!!!!
i think give it one to two years time. In 2015 shipping will be going upstring again. think for long term should b ok.
halleluyah ( Date: 15-May-2013 08:09) Posted:
I believe by 2014, shipping counters will start to turn over. Next Q onwards can start to collect when is real cheap to hold fr long.
cheongsl ( Date: 15-May-2013 07:34) Posted:
| You must be very young, Mr Lee admit his mistake 10years later not 20 years, this is the shipping cycle, and currently should be at the turning point already |
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as for which year, when he admit i can`t really remember it is in the 90s where i am still schooling. that time quite surprise that the one in white shirt make mistake.
cheongsl ( Date: 15-May-2013 07:34) Posted:
You must be very young, Mr Lee admit his mistake 10years later not 20 years, this is the shipping cycle, and currently should be at the turning point already.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 19:33) Posted:
| Wahahaha!!!! Not only Lee but whole market. Because of all people think so, 20 years later shipping boom. But now situations is totally opposite, all people think shipping boom from 2005 to 2009, so this industry heading to sunset industry in next 10 to 20 years. You miss the boat in 2005 to 2008, but board the wrong boat in 2012 to 2013. Wahahaha!!!!!!! |
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I believe by 2014, shipping counters will start to turn over. Next Q onwards can start to collect when is real cheap to hold fr long.
cheongsl ( Date: 15-May-2013 07:34) Posted:
You must be very young, Mr Lee admit his mistake 10years later not 20 years, this is the shipping cycle, and currently should be at the turning point already.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 19:33) Posted:
| Wahahaha!!!! Not only Lee but whole market. Because of all people think so, 20 years later shipping boom. But now situations is totally opposite, all people think shipping boom from 2005 to 2009, so this industry heading to sunset industry in next 10 to 20 years. You miss the boat in 2005 to 2008, but board the wrong boat in 2012 to 2013. Wahahaha!!!!!!! |
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No shipping companies means no business!
Airline cargo services too expensive, thus dry bulks, containers, conventional shipping will continue into the future. Commodities and machines shipments still require shipping services. Those who think there is no need for shipping services are blank upstairs. Hahaha.
You must be very young, Mr Lee admit his mistake 10years later not 20 years, this is the shipping cycle, and currently should be at the turning point already.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 19:33) Posted:
Wahahaha!!!! Not only Lee but whole market. Because of all people think so, 20 years later shipping boom. But now situations is totally opposite, all people think shipping boom from 2005 to 2009, so this industry heading to sunset industry in next 10 to 20 years. You miss the boat in 2005 to 2008, but board the wrong boat in 2012 to 2013. Wahahaha!!!!!!!
cheongsl ( Date: 14-May-2013 19:25) Posted:
| Remember 1985, Shipbuilding was label as " sunset" industries by Mr Lee and Governments in Singapore. But what happen subsequently? It revital and still survive till today |
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Your comparison is so strange, why are you taking quarterly balance sheet comparison, and not annually balance sheet, as current and non-current is differentialt by annually. Although Yang present it in quarterly as investor you need to do your due diligence.
2012Q1 total borrowing is 9.766billion and 2013Q1 total borrowing is 8.931billion. It is a decline in total debt over a year.
Why talk about cash which is flowing, and not talk about the current Asset/Current liability which all fundamental looks at? Unless Yang is not in business, normal people who depend on monthly income will look at cash.
The ratio in 2012Q1 is 1.49 and 2013Q1 is 1.80, it show an improving.
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 23:09) Posted:
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Wahahaha!!!!!!! National reserve is for show off purpose to prevent currency gonna attacked, Singapore is world no.1 debt country, which the property policy cause all citizens loan a lot of money and paid by cpf. If national reserve collapse, Singapore debt will collapse, this money cannot touch. Borrow from cpf? Of course lah, put inside need to give you interest, borrow loh, can't earn money change policy to delay withdrawal age or funny retired insurance policy to hold your cpf. Can YZJ has these flexibility? Wahahaha! !!!@!
darkknight ( Date: 14-May-2013 23:33) Posted:
It's the same reason why Singapore government borrow CPF money even though the national reserve is strong...
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 23:09) Posted:
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It's the same reason why Singapore government borrow CPF money even though the national reserve is strong...
ynnek1267 ( Date: 14-May-2013 23:09) Posted:
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Time has proved. YJZ and Cosco balance sheet are getting worse and worse. China company cash cannot be trusted but borrowing can be trusted. All are getting worse. This industry cannot make it liao. Wahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
Flyordie ( Date: 14-May-2013 23:03) Posted:
Whatever he like to say. Time will prove. Relax.
oldflyingfox ( Date: 14-May-2013 22:48) Posted:
| Why you said that yzj is high debt? It should be cash rich... |
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Wahahahaha!!!!!!!! Cash rich? Real cash or fake cash woh. Wahahahah!!!!!!!!
Borrowing increase from 7.389Bil to 9.010Bil. Cash on hand increase from 2.096 to 2.906Bil. Why borrowing increase if cash rich? Borrowing is real, cash is real or not? China company leh can trust har? Wahahahah!!!!
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_252EA8CA61FCFB1148257B58005FADED/$file/YZJ_Announcement_1Q2013_final.pdf?openelement
Don't wait till Carson Block tell you ah. Wahahahahah!!!!!!!!!
oldflyingfox ( Date: 14-May-2013 22:48) Posted:
| Why you said that yzj is high debt? It should be cash rich... |
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