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baseerahmed
    02-Apr-2008 22:14  
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..wonder how many are watching the documentary Planet Earth: The Future on arts central at this moment ....

... simply breath-taking and very profound ... :  )

 
 
 
tanglinboy
    02-Apr-2008 21:44  
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Why is a horse = passion?

Sporeguy      ( Date: 02-Apr-2008 17:07) Posted:

For those who want to interpret yourself in privacy. Personality test.

What would you leave behind?

You're walking through the desert and you are running out of water. you are traveling with 5 animals:

a monkey
a lion
a cow
a horse
and a sheep

put these animals in order of which animal would be the first you leave behind, the second, third, etc. The last animal you chose will be the animal you walk out of the desert with.


done it?


ok, each animal represents something in your life. the first animal you leave behind will be the thing in your life that is least important to you out of these 5. the one you walk out with will be the most important.

monkey- children
lion- pride
cow- basic needs (food, shelter)
horse- passion
sheep- friends

 
 
Farmer
    02-Apr-2008 18:10  
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Just for entertainment.....

Baseerahmed, as what AK mentioned, cantonese call their wife/mistress "MaZhi" equal to a horse here. Childrens are like moneys sometime, jumping, running, shouting, crying ...... the only times they'll keep quiet is when they are sick. hahaha!

Hmm... what i can't understand here is that why the Japanese prefer a sheep to be friend than a dog?



 

 
AK_Francis
    02-Apr-2008 17:57  
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Wow, seems like most of you good mode today hah. Plenty of fun's articles.

May I guess one monkey equivalent  to a child in China. In Spore 2 Childs is enough.

Wife aint not to say leow, some cantonese says ghow nah, guess what, no offence ah. I am cantonese too:) Cheers.
 
 
baseerahmed
    02-Apr-2008 17:37  
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had been always curious to know ... what do they teach in a Public Administration course ...?
 
 
baseerahmed
    02-Apr-2008 17:15  
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elfinchilde:

thank you very much for the analysis ... like all analysis and horoscope readings will take it with a pinch of salt ... roaring hahaha !

mmm .. i think we can guess the answers to make a crude analysis for our most respected shplayer ! i am sure he would have guessed it too ..hahaha !

but i don't want to spoil the fun and look forward to ur insights on shplayer ....hahaha !

.... was looking at it on face value and pratical value ...and assuming that was lost in the desert ... but if had a clear direction of the destination instead of being lost .. and the purpose of the journey ..and the value of the animals ... prized race horse vs sickly cow or the monkey had anti-bodies for cure of cancer etc ... maybe the choices will have been different ...

...mmm ..how come monkeys are equated to children ? ... what animal is the wife ... hahaha !

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JFK article ..

....sigh... wished could be very articulate like u ...perhaps maybe in the next-birth (if any) ...hahaha !

 
 

 
Sporeguy
    02-Apr-2008 17:07  
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For those who want to interpret yourself in privacy. Personality test.

What would you leave behind?

You're walking through the desert and you are running out of water. you are traveling with 5 animals:

a monkey
a lion
a cow
a horse
and a sheep

put these animals in order of which animal would be the first you leave behind, the second, third, etc. The last animal you chose will be the animal you walk out of the desert with.


done it?


ok, each animal represents something in your life. the first animal you leave behind will be the thing in your life that is least important to you out of these 5. the one you walk out with will be the most important.

monkey- children
lion- pride
cow- basic needs (food, shelter)
horse- passion
sheep- friends
 
 
shplayer
    02-Apr-2008 14:55  
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elf,

No problem, give it to me on this thread.
 
 
elfinchilde
    02-Apr-2008 13:45  
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quiz:

hehe. i've been getting requests for answers. ;) ain't gonna give them out, :P but these are what they say about you, as a person. The test comes from japan, which is what is known as a high context society. ie, things are unsaid, not overt. It is a test of your subconscious instincts in times of crises.

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So baseerahmed:

In a situation of crisis, the first thing you'd give up is pride, because that is useless to you in the game of survival. Ie, you will do what is necessary to get by--even deal nicely with people you don't like, but whom can fulfil your aims. Then, it is your children whom you'd give up next. THe next to go is passion, for life. Because when things are reduced to a bad state, what does one need for survival?

To you, it is friends to whom you are most loyal, and whom you treasure, above your own pride, above your own passion for life. Be careful of being taken advantage of by fairweathered friends. Likely, you find it difficult to cut off ties. But it is to yourself whom you are mostly true. WHen it comes to push and shove, you'd put your own survival above all else.  

 

shplayer. would you prefer yours in private instead? *grin*
 
 
elfinchilde
    02-Apr-2008 13:21  
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am with shplayer on this actually. firstly, it is not the country per se, but the system. And haha, he asked the question i was implying at, when i talked about stewardesses and whom they served:

What if being a perceived 'second class citizen' in another country, is better than being a first class citizen in your own country?

How much of what we know is simply propaganda, instead of real truth?

And having said that: singaporeans tend to have a nanny mentality too, as in, we rely on the govt for too many things, when power should be in our own hands. As i said, when two parts create friction, the problem is not on the parts, but on the friction: ie, the right match.

Every country has its own ideals, its culture, its beliefs. Just because you were born in one, doesn't mean that its ethos and zeitgeist resonates with you.

THe idea of 'what you can do for your country' has to be understood in the context of its time.  And not permuted to simply the superficial line itself. (one of the other things which i never liked about being singaporean: the assumption that we know it all, when really, we're merely reading the first lines of paragraphs, and assuming the rest. THat's perhaps why singaporeans do not succeed in China for business: we are not careful enough on the details, whilst being pedantic on sticking 'with the rules'--which really, varies from country to country).

But I digress. JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"'s speech was his inaugural speech as President in 1961. That was 47 years ago. It was the era of new beginnings, the Beat Generation, the hippie-ness that believed in peace, freedom, and on the flip side, the Vietnam War.

Now, when you have a war, what do you need? Soldiers.

How do you get them? By stirring up patriotism. Hence, "what you can do for your country".

For those interested, read this: http://www.halexandria.org/dward821.htm

In short:

It is far more likely that these quotations from our illustrious leaders refer to the idea that our fellow citizens should not be asking what manner of welfare and free rides their country can provide for them, but what they can provide for their government. Assuming this is the case, then we are left with a bit of a quandary.

A government is not an independent entity with its own inalienable existence. It is instead that collection of individuals who exercise the rule of the government over its constituents. In other words, governments are that collective of the elite and powerful.

Ask not what the elite and powerful can do for you -- ask what you can do for the elite and powerful.

That speech was one of the best political chicanery I have ever seen. Kennedy was pure charisma. Machiavellians make the best politicians.

And this, too, is why Singapore will always have a nanny government; simply, unlike America and other large countries, we cannot afford political dissent.

It is catch 22. The more they handhold us, the more we will become like whining kids unable to fend for ourselves. But if they do NOT handhold us, what is risked is a country that falls apart. Unlike America, what would we have? Bedok as one country, Jurong as another? It is simply unfeasible.

So for all the talk about initiatives, we necessarily remain as what Juvenal said, about government: panem et circenses.

ie, "bread and circuses". Feed the people, entertain them, and they will obey.

Governments run their populations on obedience, not on thinking men. THe danger for the ruling elite, always, is a thinking man. Which is why, when governments assume power, the first thing they do is to suppress the arts.

 

 

 
derekchong
    02-Apr-2008 10:37  
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shplayer,

you are right, it is really a big problem.
 
 
shplayer
    02-Apr-2008 08:58  
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maxlyl,

So, you think if there is a problem, we should sweep it under the carpet; grin and bear it.

If a person does this, he is either
  1. a non thinking person.....a blind follower
  2. a person who is totally unconcerned with the future of the country.


As onesharer said, In order to resolve a problem, one must first recognise/acknowledge the problem.  
 
 
OneSharer
    02-Apr-2008 08:46  
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In order to resolve a problem, one must first recognise/acknowledge the problem.  
 
 
max_lyl
    02-Apr-2008 00:21  
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Nobody must ever badmouth our own country. It is akin to badmouthing our own family. NOBODY owe you a living.  
 
 
tanglinboy
    01-Apr-2008 22:15  
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The difference between the Chinese dynasties and the British empire was that the Chinese were inward looking. This resulted in stagnation and the western powers overtook it.

stupidfool      ( Date: 01-Apr-2008 13:37) Posted:



Chinese are the oldest civilisation around.

They could have planted their flags in Malaysia and singapore and claimed it as their colonies.Just as what the British did.

And they can also be like the British,take away the wealth from the colonies and bring it back home.

 

 

 
stupidfool
    01-Apr-2008 13:37  
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Chinese are the oldest civilisation around.

They could have planted their flags in Malaysia and singapore and claimed it as their colonies.Just as what the British did.

And they can also be like the British,take away the wealth from the colonies and bring it back home.

 
 
 
lausk22
    01-Apr-2008 12:59  
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If on hindsight, our forefathers had migrated to down under instead of coming to Nanyang, then we would be now shaking legs and laying backs there to enjoy the vast resources...Smiley

hmm come to think of it, the descendents of the British prisoners were a lucky lot. despite the bad things their forefather did, they suffer no retributions....Smiley
 
 
OneSharer
    01-Apr-2008 12:43  
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I notice whenever a country undergoes a crisis, their people living overseas would stage protest or demonstration outside embassies situated in foreign lands.  If not patriotic, why not just shake leg at home and watch CNA/CNN. 
 
 
Farmer
    01-Apr-2008 10:50  
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Hohoho! This thread is generating the usual interest to its purposes... entertainment! Hope its won't end up like today's calendar..haha!

There are 2 main ongoing subjects.....Patriotism / Respect.

I believe all living things has its reason to exist / co-exist in this planet. They will all chose the best place for their habitation in order to strive for the best chance to survive, else they'll either non-exist or fade away in a matter of time.

My father migrated to Sgp from China in the early 50s for survival in view of the era of hardship encounter after the WWII follow by civil war between the Communist-Kuomintan. Not that he dun love his country, its a matter of "do or die" kind of situation. What have change now? People choose to migrate in search for a better life/future/comfort/fortune/prospect....etc. But the choice is yours to be made as long as it work-out for you and your family and everyone is happy with that decision. We should all learn to respect others decision,  just like someone chose to salute to everyone indiscriminately!Hmmm... nowadays, saluting has lost its value just like MIC products which are cheaper. Oops, its now a globalise world right, so must think in a 'globe' manner?
 
 
tabbykat
    01-Apr-2008 10:15  
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Those given half a chance will migrate. They do not waste their time in debating.

Those who stay are the ones who debate. Saying things to make themselves feel good.

There are closed to 200,000 Singaporean in Australia and many in US & Canada. Other nationalities also immigrate to Singapore. But who are they? Are they Australian, US and Canadian?

Cheers
 
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