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Hulumas
    19-Sep-2010 21:44  
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Thank you for the information.

pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Sep-2010 18:36) Posted:

O V E R H E A D :

secUrIty  nO  IssUe  at  UPmarket  Gardens  landed  prOpertIes  whIch  has  fUlly Integrated  secUrIty  system.

Only  have IssUe  at  thOse  RM100,000  per  terrace hOUse  lOw enD  Gardens

where there  Is  nO  secUrIty  systEm

Of  cOUrse,  dO nOt  gO  tO  plantatIOns  wIth  gOOd  bars,  CASH,  GIRLS . . . .



Hulumas      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 10:34) Posted:

Is security still the main issue buying property at JB


 
 
nickyng
    19-Sep-2010 18:39  
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 http://www.todayonline.com/Business/Property/EDC100917-0000047/Housing-supply--Maintaining-a-fine-balance
Housing supply: Maintaining a fine balance


by Mah Bow Tan

 
Recently, I received an appeal from a young couple who had applied for the first waterfront BTO project at Punggol Waterway Terraces. Seeing the high application rates, they were worried that the Housing and Development Board (HDB) was not building enough new flats and that prices would shoot up beyond their reach.

The couple commented: "We read in the papers that the number of new flats completed each year by the HDB has been lower than the number of marriages in recent years. This means that the HDB is not building enough flats for the new households."

This couple's concern may be shared by many Singaporeans. Let me explain why things are not so straightforward, and how the HDB plans its housing supply to fulfil both short- and long-term needs of the people.



PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE MASSES

Meeting first-timer needs. The Government's commitment remains clear and constant - to provide affordable housing to the masses. Today, eight in 10 Singaporeans stay in HDB flats.

To keep our commitment to future generations, the HDB must focus on helping young couples buy their first flats.

Supporting resale flat purchases. But this does not mean that we need to build a new flat for every new household. Why?

Because some households may buy resale flats instead of new flats for various reasons, such as location and flat type. The HDB supports them by providing a CPF grant of $30,000 to $40,000 and a loan subsidy. Those with lower income can also qualify for an additional grant of up to $40,000. Among first-timers, 30 to 55 per cent of them took up resale rather than new flats each year over the past decade.

Supplying new flats. After accounting for what is met through the resale market, the HDB then builds new flats to meet the housing needs, with more flats set aside for first-timers. In planning the housing supply, the HDB takes a comprehensive approach. It examines not just the marriage rate, but also factors like the inflow of permanent residents and foreigners, flats released into the resale market through deaths or emigration, and upgrading or downgrading by existing home owners.

Over the past 10 years, the HDB built and sold more than 100,000 new flats. This was equivalent to adding three new Toa Payoh towns. The resale market was even more active in the same period, supplying over 300,000 or three times more flats. Together, new and resale flats have met the long-term housing needs of Singaporeans.



MANAGING DEMAND FLUCTUATIONS

Fluctuating short-term demand. However, things are never so simple. While supply over the medium term is roughly aligned with projections, housing demand in the short term can be much more volatile. Home buyers will adjust their purchases, depending on the economic outlook and market sentiments. When prices are low, buyers hold back, hoping it will go down further. Conversely, when prices are high, more buyers may come forward, worried that they may miss the boat.

So, while marriages among Singaporeans eligible for public housing stayed largely unchanged over the past decade at about 16,000 per year, demand for subsidised housing from first timers fluctuated between 12,000 and 19,000 per year over the last decade. Total transactions in the HDB market varied even more sharply during this period, ranging from about 37,000 to 58,000 transactions annually.

Avoiding an over-supply. If the HDB were to fly on auto-pilot and supply a fixed number of flats every year, regardless of market conditions, there would be the risk of an over-supply in some years. For example, between 2002 and 2006, resale flat prices had remained largely flat.

If the HDB had pressed on with housing supply based on long term projections, then flat prices for the over-800,000 existing home owners could have been depressed further.



RESPONDING TO RISING VOLATILITY

Managing unprecedented changes. The market changes over the past year or so have been especially challenging to anticipate. As late as May last year, the International Monetary Fund was predicting a "long, severe recession" for Asia.

Surprisingly, the number of new immigrants to Singapore actually increased during the downturn, as economic activities recovered quickly.

Equally important was the impact of sentiment. Property prices tapered off in the first half of last year, even though there were many foreigners here. But prices picked up sharply not only in Singapore but also in the region, when the outlook improved dramatically in the second half of last year amid low interest rates globally.

Responding swiftly. In response to the sharp recovery, the HDB rapidly increased the offer of new flats from the earlier plan of 6,000 to 9,000 in the second half of last year.

For 2010, the HDB recently raised its planned output by more than 30 per cent, from 12,000 to more than 16,000 new flats. It is also prepared to launch up to 22,000 next year. At this rate, in just two years, we will offer more flats than what is currently available in Toa Payoh.



MAINTAINING A BALANCE

Determining the right housing supply for the short term will always be a difficult call, and we have to strike a delicate balance. Economic conditions and sentiments can change much faster than any building plan.

So, while we plan our housing supply to broadly meet longer term needs, we also build in some buffer to deal with short-term fluctuations.

Some might suggest that the HDB could go further and build a much larger buffer or build ahead of demand to deal with market fluctuations.

But this would then create the problems of high holding costs and a potential supply-demand mismatch, which I will deal with in my next article.

Ultimately, whatever the system of flat application, trade-offs have to be made between supplying too little to meet home buyers' needs and supplying too much to the detriment of existing home owners or taxpayers. These are trade-offs that we must balance carefully in the overall interests of all Singaporeans.



The writer is the Minister for National Development.


 
 
pharoah88
    19-Sep-2010 18:36  
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O V E R H E A D :

secUrIty  nO  IssUe  at  UPmarket  Gardens  landed  prOpertIes  whIch  has  fUlly Integrated  secUrIty  system.

Only  have IssUe  at  thOse  RM100,000  per  terrace hOUse  lOw enD  Gardens

where there  Is  nO  secUrIty  systEm

Of  cOUrse,  dO nOt  gO  tO  plantatIOns  wIth  gOOd  bars,  CASH,  GIRLS . . . .



Hulumas      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 10:34) Posted:

Is security still the main issue buying property at JB?

pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:46) Posted:

O V E R H E A R D :

passIng  the  ball  back  tO  yOUr  cOUrt  ? ? ? ?

An  IncentIve  fOr  MalaysIan  PRs  and  mOre  sIngapOreans  ? ? ? ? 

tO  shIft  tO  JB  ? ? ? ?

and  help   spEEd  Up  the  develOpment  Of  ISKANDAR  IR ? ? ? ?

 

nOte:  there are nOt  sIngapOrean  estates and  gardens  In  JB  ? ? ? ?

          CASH  OUt  whIle  HDB  prIces  are  stIll  hIgh  ? ? ? ?



 

 
pharoah88
    19-Sep-2010 18:31  
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In  Order  tO  bOOst  theIr  cOrpOrate fInancIals

ALL  banks, developers, and stI cOmpOnent stOcks

mUst  bUy  GENTING  SP  ?

eVen  fOr 

MAS  ? ? ? ?

GIC  ? ? ?  ?

Temasek ? ? ? ?
 
 
niuyear
    13-Sep-2010 10:39  
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The new property cooling measures become   a    HDB rules?    HDB is a scapegoat?

or  is it our garment wants to go back  to  BASIC (back to 20 yrs ago)

What was BASIC? life in singapore 20 yrs ago 

1)  everyone owns only  one HDB flat

2) no credit cards, so no hassal of setting limits

3) No Casino

4) No MRT

5) No ...................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
Hulumas
    13-Sep-2010 10:34  
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Is security still the main issue buying property at JB?

pharoah88      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:46) Posted:

O V E R H E A R D :

passIng  the  ball  back  tO  yOUr  cOUrt  ? ? ? ?

An  IncentIve  fOr  MalaysIan  PRs  and  mOre  sIngapOreans  ? ? ? ? 

tO  shIft  tO  JB  ? ? ? ?

and  help   spEEd  Up  the  develOpment  Of  ISKANDAR  IR ? ? ? ?

 

nOte:  there are nOt  sIngapOrean  estates and  gardens  In  JB  ? ? ? ?

          CASH  OUt  whIle  HDB  prIces  are  stIll  hIgh  ? ? ? ?



nickyng      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:



 http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them

 

New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.


 

 
niuyear
    13-Sep-2010 10:28  
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This is telling me  that :

To be a PR in singapore , you have to be able to afford   private property and you better not  'wish'  to buy HDB flats so that you can keep your overseas property intact . If you dont like Hdb LATEST rule, dont own HDB flat.

To  Singaporeans, garment spend efforts building HDB flats,  you better stay for 5 years to repay the efforts.  AFter that, you can then consider  buying private property.  If you dont like HDB rules, dont own HDB flat.



nickyng      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:



 http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them

 

New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.

 
 
pharoah88
    13-Sep-2010 08:46  
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O V E R H E A R D :

passIng  the  ball  back  tO  yOUr  cOUrt  ? ? ? ?

An  IncentIve  fOr  MalaysIan  PRs  and  mOre  sIngapOreans  ? ? ? ? 

tO  shIft  tO  JB  ? ? ? ?

and  help   spEEd  Up  the  develOpment  Of  ISKANDAR  IR ? ? ? ?

 

nOte:  there are nOt  sIngapOrean  estates and  gardens  In  JB  ? ? ? ?

          CASH  OUt  whIle  HDB  prIces  are  stIll  hIgh  ? ? ? ?



nickyng      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:



 http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them

 

New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.

 
 
pharoah88
    13-Sep-2010 08:38  
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O V E R H E A R D :

Last year, many  sIngpOreans  rUshed  tO  bUy  MalaysIan  prOpertIes

befOre  the  2010 January 1st  Dead Line

dOUblIng  the mInImUm fOreIgn Investment  sUm

frOm  RM250,000  tO  RM500,000  ? ? ? ?

"以牙还牙"  ????



nickyng      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:



 http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them

 

New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.

 
 
pharoah88
    13-Sep-2010 08:33  
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O V E R H E A D :

SAGE  says "An  EYE  fOr  an  EYE"  ? ? ? ?

                    "A tOOth  fOr  a  tOOth"  ? ? ? ?

                    "以毒攻毒 "   ? ? ? ?

"sInce  yOu  me, nOw I  shOOt  yOu  back"  ? ? ? ?   

ALL  CASH  FLOW  mUSt  retUrn  tO  SINGAPORE  ? ? ? ?

SINGAPORE  is  shOrt  Of  CASH  ? ? ? ?

AUSTRALIA  BANK  is   payIng   10%  FD  Interest  Rate  nOw  In  AUSTRALIA  tO  TRAP  CASH.



nickyng      ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:



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New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.

 

 
pharoah88
    13-Sep-2010 08:26  
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1st  wIfe  tO  make  mOney

2nd  wIfe tO make  hOme

3rd  wIfe  tO make babIes

4th  wIfe  tO make 1st 2nd 3rd wIves  HAPPY 



niuyear      ( Date: 12-Sep-2010 13:15) Posted:

Good suggestion!   Because, they just  refused to have babies , then,, leave the job to the other woman who is willing to do so.   Dont waste the husband's sperm plse.,



artng25      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:

Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase Smiley


 
 
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    13-Sep-2010 08:20  
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    nickyng
        13-Sep-2010 08:03  
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     http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them

     

    New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions


    The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome. However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures. Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years. Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad. Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad. Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here? Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached? I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas. While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here. In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why? One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases? What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore. At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here. How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions. For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given. All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority. The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
     
     
    niuyear
        12-Sep-2010 13:15  
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    Good suggestion!   Because, they just  refused to have babies , then,, leave the job to the other woman who is willing to do so.   Dont waste the husband's sperm plse.,



    artng25      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:

    Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase Smiley

    junction      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:

    The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies.  Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8.  But we need 2.11 just to maintain population.  No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down.  Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating.  They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married.  Money seems to be their main pursuit.  Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work.  So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans?  We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy.  Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down.  Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset


     
     
    AK_Francis
        12-Sep-2010 11:27  
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    Ha ha, no use, man die faster!!

    artng25      ( Date: 12-Sep-2010 10:03) Posted:

    ....... 3 wives ?

    Hulumas      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:59) Posted:

    Is that the only solution


     

     
    artng25
        12-Sep-2010 10:03  
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    ....... 3 wives ?

    Hulumas      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:59) Posted:

    Is that the only solution?

    artng25      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:

    Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase Smiley


     
     
    Hulumas
        11-Sep-2010 18:59  
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    Is that the only solution?

    artng25      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:

    Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase Smiley

    junction      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:

    The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies.  Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8.  But we need 2.11 just to maintain population.  No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down.  Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating.  They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married.  Money seems to be their main pursuit.  Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work.  So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans?  We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy.  Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down.  Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset


     
     
    artng25
        11-Sep-2010 18:08  
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    Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase Smiley

    junction      ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:

    The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies.  Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8.  But we need 2.11 just to maintain population.  No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down.  Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating.  They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married.  Money seems to be their main pursuit.  Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work.  So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans?  We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy.  Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down.  Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset.

    Isolator      ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:24) Posted:



    To be honest, we need foreigner and PR, but we must know the balance.

    If the PR and citizen status do not make much different, then who will want to become citizen. Even they become citizen, they will still leave the country if there is no advantage to stay as citizen. Government must learn to make citizen has sense of belonging to the country.

    We must first make a distinct advantage to citizen like only Citizen can buy HDB or maybe PR need to pay additional 20% cash or more as tax when buying HDB. They will not speculate the HDB market as they will be losing 20%. So simple to control HDB price and to have more new citizen. 1 stone kill 2 birds... lol


     
     
    junction
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    The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies.  Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8.  But we need 2.11 just to maintain population.  No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down.  Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating.  They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married.  Money seems to be their main pursuit.  Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work.  So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans?  We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy.  Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down.  Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset.

    Isolator      ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:24) Posted:



    To be honest, we need foreigner and PR, but we must know the balance.

    If the PR and citizen status do not make much different, then who will want to become citizen. Even they become citizen, they will still leave the country if there is no advantage to stay as citizen. Government must learn to make citizen has sense of belonging to the country.

    We must first make a distinct advantage to citizen like only Citizen can buy HDB or maybe PR need to pay additional 20% cash or more as tax when buying HDB. They will not speculate the HDB market as they will be losing 20%. So simple to control HDB price and to have more new citizen. 1 stone kill 2 birds... lol

     
     
    Salute
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    don't agreed fully. In fact it's lower salary that a company is interested in, As for less work, it all depends.

    elite job like scientists I am not sure, but in many sectors the chinese, philipinos in office work or service line) are slower at work or not as well in coordination--that affects efficiency



    Hulumas      ( Date: 10-Sep-2010 10:07) Posted:

    Purely because generally, Singaporean expect HIGH PAY, LESS WORK and TOO DEMANDED JOB SATISFACTION, WORKING ENVIRONMENT also EXCESSIVE RESPONSIBILITY LIBERTY.

    pharoah88      ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:12) Posted:



    WHY PRs ?

    WHY increase populations ?

    WHY more training ?

    these  are  RED  HERRINGS ? ? ? ?

    The  TRUTH  PARADIGM:

    -  UNable to create adquate PMET jobs for SINGAPOREANS

    - UNable to build enough HDB flats for SINGAPOREANS

    - UNable to enlarge enough roads for SINGAPOREANS 

    Are PRs doing Rocket Scientists' jobs which ALL Singaporeans cannot do ?

    Never come across a foreign TALENT sO Talented that ALL Singaporeans cannot perform his / her job ?

    WHY  Singaporeans PMETs with double Masters CPA CMA CIA CFA are still UNemployed or driving taxis for years ?  year after year ?

    FULL STOP 


     
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