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pharoah88 ( Date: 19-Sep-2010 18:36) Posted:
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O V E R H E A D :
secUrIty nO IssUe at UPmarket Gardens landed prOpertIes whIch has fUlly Integrated secUrIty system.
Only have IssUe at thOse RM100,000 per terrace hOUse lOw enD Gardens
where there Is nO secUrIty systEm
Of cOUrse, dO nOt gO tO plantatIOns wIth gOOd bars, CASH, GIRLS . . . .
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 10:34) Posted:
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http://www.todayonline.com/Business/Property/EDC100917-0000047/Housing-supply--Maintaining-a-fine-balance
Housing supply: Maintaining a fine
balance
by Mah Bow
Tan
05:55 AM Sep 17, 2010
Recently, I received an appeal from a young
couple who had applied for the first waterfront BTO project at Punggol Waterway
Terraces. Seeing the high application rates, they were worried that the Housing
and Development Board (HDB) was not building enough new flats and that prices
would shoot up beyond their reach.
The couple commented: "We read in the
papers that the number of new flats completed each year by the HDB has been
lower than the number of marriages in recent years. This means that the HDB is
not building enough flats for the new households."
This couple's concern
may be shared by many Singaporeans. Let me explain why things are not so
straightforward, and how the HDB plans its housing supply to fulfil both short-
and long-term needs of the people.
PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
TO THE MASSES
Meeting first-timer needs. The Government's commitment
remains clear and constant - to provide affordable housing to the masses. Today,
eight in 10 Singaporeans stay in HDB flats.
To keep our commitment to
future generations, the HDB must focus on helping young couples buy their first
flats.
Supporting resale flat purchases. But this does not mean that we
need to build a new flat for every new household. Why?
Because some
households may buy resale flats instead of new flats for various reasons, such
as location and flat type. The HDB supports them by providing a CPF grant of
$30,000 to $40,000 and a loan subsidy. Those with lower income can also qualify
for an additional grant of up to $40,000. Among first-timers, 30 to 55 per cent
of them took up resale rather than new flats each year over the past decade.
Supplying new flats. After accounting for what is met through the resale
market, the HDB then builds new flats to meet the housing needs, with more flats
set aside for first-timers. In planning the housing supply, the HDB takes a
comprehensive approach. It examines not just the marriage rate, but also factors
like the inflow of permanent residents and foreigners, flats released into the
resale market through deaths or emigration, and upgrading or downgrading by
existing home owners.
Over the past 10 years, the HDB built and sold
more than 100,000 new flats. This was equivalent to adding three new Toa Payoh
towns. The resale market was even more active in the same period, supplying over
300,000 or three times more flats. Together, new and resale flats have met the
long-term housing needs of Singaporeans.
MANAGING DEMAND
FLUCTUATIONS
Fluctuating short-term demand. However, things are never so
simple. While supply over the medium term is roughly aligned with projections,
housing demand in the short term can be much more volatile. Home buyers will
adjust their purchases, depending on the economic outlook and market sentiments.
When prices are low, buyers hold back, hoping it will go down further.
Conversely, when prices are high, more buyers may come forward, worried that
they may miss the boat.
So, while marriages among Singaporeans eligible
for public housing stayed largely unchanged over the past decade at about 16,000
per year, demand for subsidised housing from first timers fluctuated between
12,000 and 19,000 per year over the last decade. Total transactions in the HDB
market varied even more sharply during this period, ranging from about 37,000 to
58,000 transactions annually.
Avoiding an over-supply. If the HDB were to
fly on auto-pilot and supply a fixed number of flats every year, regardless of
market conditions, there would be the risk of an over-supply in some years. For
example, between 2002 and 2006, resale flat prices had remained largely flat.
If the HDB had pressed on with housing supply based on long term
projections, then flat prices for the over-800,000 existing home owners could
have been depressed further.
RESPONDING TO RISING
VOLATILITY
Managing unprecedented changes. The market changes over the
past year or so have been especially challenging to anticipate. As late as May
last year, the International Monetary Fund was predicting a "long, severe
recession" for Asia.
Surprisingly, the number of new immigrants to
Singapore actually increased during the downturn, as economic activities
recovered quickly.
Equally important was the impact of sentiment.
Property prices tapered off in the first half of last year, even though there
were many foreigners here. But prices picked up sharply not only in Singapore
but also in the region, when the outlook improved dramatically in the second
half of last year amid low interest rates globally.
Responding swiftly.
In response to the sharp recovery, the HDB rapidly increased the offer of new
flats from the earlier plan of 6,000 to 9,000 in the second half of last
year.
For 2010, the HDB recently raised its planned output by more than
30 per cent, from 12,000 to more than 16,000 new flats. It is also prepared to
launch up to 22,000 next year. At this rate, in just two years, we will offer
more flats than what is currently available in Toa
Payoh.
MAINTAINING A BALANCE
Determining the right housing
supply for the short term will always be a difficult call, and we have to strike
a delicate balance. Economic conditions and sentiments can change much faster
than any building plan.
So, while we plan our housing supply to broadly
meet longer term needs, we also build in some buffer to deal with short-term
fluctuations.
Some might suggest that the HDB could go further and build
a much larger buffer or build ahead of demand to deal with market
fluctuations.
But this would then create the problems of high holding
costs and a potential supply-demand mismatch, which I will deal with in my next
article.
Ultimately, whatever the system of flat application, trade-offs
have to be made between supplying too little to meet home buyers' needs and
supplying too much to the detriment of existing home owners or taxpayers. These
are trade-offs that we must balance carefully in the overall interests of all
Singaporeans.
The writer is the Minister for National
Development.
O V E R H E A D :
secUrIty nO IssUe at UPmarket Gardens landed prOpertIes whIch has fUlly Integrated secUrIty system.
Only have IssUe at thOse RM100,000 per terrace hOUse lOw enD Gardens
where there Is nO secUrIty systEm
Of cOUrse, dO nOt gO tO plantatIOns wIth gOOd bars, CASH, GIRLS . . . .
Hulumas ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 10:34) Posted:
Is security still the main issue buying property at JB?
pharoah88 ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:46) Posted:
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O V E R H E A R D :
passIng the ball back tO yOUr cOUrt ? ? ? ?
An IncentIve fOr MalaysIan PRs and mOre sIngapOreans ? ? ? ?
tO shIft tO JB ? ? ? ?
and help spEEd Up the develOpment Of ISKANDAR IR ? ? ? ?
nOte: there are nOt sIngapOrean estates and gardens In JB ? ? ? ?
CASH OUt whIle HDB prIces are stIll hIgh ? ? ? ? |
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In Order tO bOOst theIr cOrpOrate fInancIals,
ALL banks, developers, and stI cOmpOnent stOcks
mUst bUy GENTING SP ?
eVen fOr
MAS ? ? ? ?
GIC ? ? ? ?
Temasek ? ? ? ?
The new property cooling measures become a HDB rules? HDB is a scapegoat?
or is it our garment wants to go back to BASIC (back to 20 yrs ago)
What was BASIC? life in singapore 20 yrs ago
1) everyone owns only one HDB flat
2) no credit cards, so no hassal of setting limits
3) No Casino
4) No MRT
5) No ...................
Is security still the main issue buying property at JB?
pharoah88 ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:46) Posted:
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O V E R H E A R D :
passIng the ball back tO yOUr cOUrt ? ? ? ?
An IncentIve fOr MalaysIan PRs and mOre sIngapOreans ? ? ? ?
tO shIft tO JB ? ? ? ?
and help spEEd Up the develOpment Of ISKANDAR IR ? ? ? ?
nOte: there are nOt sIngapOrean estates and gardens In JB ? ? ? ?
CASH OUt whIle HDB prIces are stIll hIgh ? ? ? ?
nickyng ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
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This is telling me that :
To be a PR in singapore , you have to be able to afford private property and you better not 'wish' to buy HDB flats so that you can keep your overseas property intact . If you dont like Hdb LATEST rule, dont own HDB flat.
To Singaporeans, garment spend efforts building HDB flats, you better stay for 5 years to repay the efforts. AFter that, you can then consider buying private property. If you dont like HDB rules, dont own HDB flat.
nickyng ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
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O V E R H E A R D :
passIng the ball back tO yOUr cOUrt ? ? ? ?
An IncentIve fOr MalaysIan PRs and mOre sIngapOreans ? ? ? ?
tO shIft tO JB ? ? ? ?
and help spEEd Up the develOpment Of ISKANDAR IR ? ? ? ?
nOte: there are nOt sIngapOrean estates and gardens In JB ? ? ? ?
CASH OUt whIle HDB prIces are stIll hIgh ? ? ? ?
nickyng ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
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O V E R H E A R D :
Last year, many sIngpOreans rUshed tO bUy MalaysIan prOpertIes
befOre the 2010 January 1st Dead Line
dOUblIng the mInImUm fOreIgn Investment sUm
frOm RM250,000 tO RM500,000 ? ? ? ?
"以牙还牙" ????
nickyng ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
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SAGE says "An EYE fOr an EYE" ? ? ? ?
"A tOOth fOr a tOOth" ? ? ? ?
"以毒攻毒 " ? ? ? ?
"sInce yOu me, nOw I shOOt yOu back" ? ? ? ?
ALL CASH FLOW mUSt retUrn tO SINGAPORE ? ? ? ?
SINGAPORE is shOrt Of CASH ? ? ? ?
AUSTRALIA BANK is payIng 10% FD Interest Rate nOw In AUSTRALIA tO TRAP CASH.
nickyng ( Date: 13-Sep-2010 08:03) Posted:
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
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1st wIfe tO make mOney
2nd wIfe tO make hOme
3rd wIfe tO make babIes
4th wIfe tO make 1st 2nd 3rd wIves HAPPY
niuyear ( Date: 12-Sep-2010 13:15) Posted:
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Good suggestion! Because, they just refused to have babies , then,, leave the job to the other woman who is willing to do so. Dont waste the husband's sperm plse.,
artng25 ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:
Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase
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Thinking twice
Malaysians think twice about settling in S'pore in wake of recent property measures
http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC100913-0000041/What-it-really-means-for-them
New HDB rule on overseas home ownership raises questions
The recent measures by the Government to prevent a property bubble in Singapore are generally welcome.
However, like all such measures, they sometimes appear to have unintended effects. In some cases, they may appear to affect people who probably were never meant to be the target of those measures.
Take the case of those who own private property not in Singapore but abroad. According to the new rules, a person who buys a non-subsidised public housing flat after the end of last month can only purchase a private property after living in the HDB apartment for a minimum of five years.
Those now own private properties and want to buy a HDB flat will have to sell their private property within six months of their HDB purchase. It does not matter if the private property is here or abroad.
Those who fail to declare their ownership of private properties or make a false declaration face fines of up to $5,000 or a prison term of up to six months, or both. The HDB can also compulsorily acquire its property if it discovers a false declaration has been made after the buyer takes possession of the flat. But many will get away with it for it is impossible or impractical to verify property ownership abroad.
Still, why penalise those having private properties abroad in the first place? How do these people compete for properties here? How are you going to attract foreign talent if they have to give up homes they may have to go back to one of these days - unless you intend to more or less imprison them here?
Not all foreign talent attract the kind of remuneration or pay packages that will allow them to buy or rent private property here. It may make more sense for these people to buy their own HDB flats. And as already reported, permanent residents who inherit properties overseas can also be placed in a quandary. Do you dispose of your inheritance, no matter what the sentimental value attached?
I know foreigners have been accused of driving property prices here sky high. But if you want to attract talent, you have to provide the infrastructure to accommodate them. The solution lies in building more flats, not in depriving them of what they own overseas.
While property prices here, both private and public, are generally expensive, a property in Malaysia or elsewhere abroad, including Australia may be relatively cheap - sometimes one third or less the cost of a four-room HDB flat here.
In fact I know of many friends who have properties in Perth or Malaysia which they use for vacations abroad. Now the new rules will not allow for such luxuries. Why?
One lady wrote in to the papers to say she had a small property in Malaysia which now houses her parents. And she had paid the option for a HDB flat here. Now she has to give up the option or leave her parents homeless. Were the rules meant for such cases?
What about retirement properties overseas? Do you have to live five years in an HDB flat before deciding to invest in them? By then, those properties may be beyond your reach. Prices do not go up only in Singapore.
At one time, the Government itself was promoting property ownership as one of the best forms of investment. That was why it relaxed the rules on private property ownership for HDB flat owners. Now it has made a dramatic U-turn, even where there is no competition in the property market here.
How is owning overseas private property going to impact on local property prices? Perhaps the Government hopes to lower prices by keeping out a section of the population with private flats abroad. There must be quite a large number of people owning private property abroad for them to have an impact on property prices here and for the authorities to want to enforce the prohibitions.
For sure the HDB has said that it is prepared to exercise flexibility on a case by case basis, depending on the merits of each transaction. But you cannot make a property purchase in the hope that the case will have merit in the eyes of an official with subjective views. The rules on the exceptions must be clearly spelt out for all to know and act accordingly. If there is a rejection the reason must be given.
All too often here, things are rejected without any explanation although you may be allowed to apply again, not knowing why you were rejected in the first place. There must be greater transparency and people must be aware of the clear line of thought instead of thinking that the decision depended on the whims and fancies of the person in authority.
The writer is a Editor-At-Large at Today.
Good suggestion! Because, they just refused to have babies , then,, leave the job to the other woman who is willing to do so. Dont waste the husband's sperm plse.,
artng25 ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:
Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase
junction ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:
| The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies. Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8. But we need 2.11 just to maintain population. No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down. Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating. They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married. Money seems to be their main pursuit. Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work. So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans? We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy. Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down. Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset |
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Ha ha, no use, man die faster!!
artng25 ( Date: 12-Sep-2010 10:03) Posted:
....... 3 wives ?
Hulumas ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:59) Posted:
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....... 3 wives ?
Hulumas ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:59) Posted:
Is that the only solution?
artng25 ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:
Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase
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Is that the only solution?
artng25 ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 18:08) Posted:
Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase
junction ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:
| The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies. Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8. But we need 2.11 just to maintain population. No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down. Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating. They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married. Money seems to be their main pursuit. Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work. So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans? We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy. Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down. Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset |
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Hmmm....instead of artificially increasing the population and causing all these 'problems' maybe they can consider tweaking the woman's charter, let Singapore man have 2 wives, our population will surely increase
junction ( Date: 11-Sep-2010 16:36) Posted:
The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies. Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8. But we need 2.11 just to maintain population. No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down. Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating. They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married. Money seems to be their main pursuit. Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work. So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans? We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy. Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down. Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset.
Isolator ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:24) Posted:
To be honest, we need foreigner and PR, but we must know the balance.
If the PR and citizen status do not make much different, then who will want to become citizen. Even they become citizen, they will still leave the country if there is no advantage to stay as citizen. Government must learn to make citizen has sense of belonging to the country.
We must first make a distinct advantage to citizen like only Citizen can buy HDB or maybe PR need to pay additional 20% cash or more as tax when buying HDB. They will not speculate the HDB market as they will be losing 20%. So simple to control HDB price and to have more new citizen. 1 stone kill 2 birds... lol |
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The crux of the matter is Singaporeans cannot produce enough babies. Chinese Singaporeans is worst only 1.08 compared to Malay Singapores at 1.8. But we need 2.11 just to maintain population. No foreigners, no PR then don't grumble when services deteriorate,break down. Singaporeans are too materialistic and calculating. They want good income, 5C's and work very hard in their career so much so that by the time they get home, they have no energy nor mood to produce babies and the youger ones don't have time to date and so don't get married. Money seems to be their main pursuit. Too little pay, too low class, they don't want to work. So who want to work in the shipyards, as bus captains, sweepers, cleaners, maids, etc What % of essential service workers are Singaporeans? We should be thankful that these workers leave their families behind to help grow Singapore economy. Not happy, then try stopping all the foreign workers and PR's but don't complain if services break down. Maybe wat Singaporeans need is Viagra and less work hours and a realistic mindset.
Isolator ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:24) Posted:
To be honest, we need foreigner and PR, but we must know the balance.
If the PR and citizen status do not make much different, then who will want to become citizen. Even they become citizen, they will still leave the country if there is no advantage to stay as citizen. Government must learn to make citizen has sense of belonging to the country.
We must first make a distinct advantage to citizen like only Citizen can buy HDB or maybe PR need to pay additional 20% cash or more as tax when buying HDB. They will not speculate the HDB market as they will be losing 20%. So simple to control HDB price and to have more new citizen. 1 stone kill 2 birds... lol |
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don't agreed fully. In fact it's lower salary that a company is interested in, As for less work, it all depends.
elite job like scientists I am not sure, but in many sectors the chinese, philipinos in office work or service line) are slower at work or not as well in coordination--that affects efficiency
Hulumas ( Date: 10-Sep-2010 10:07) Posted:
Purely because generally, Singaporean expect HIGH PAY, LESS WORK and TOO DEMANDED JOB SATISFACTION, WORKING ENVIRONMENT also EXCESSIVE RESPONSIBILITY LIBERTY.
pharoah88 ( Date: 09-Sep-2010 14:12) Posted:
WHY PRs ?
WHY increase populations ?
WHY more training ?
these are RED HERRINGS ? ? ? ?
The TRUTH PARADIGM:
- UNable to create adquate PMET jobs for SINGAPOREANS
- UNable to build enough HDB flats for SINGAPOREANS
- UNable to enlarge enough roads for SINGAPOREANS
Are PRs doing Rocket Scientists' jobs which ALL Singaporeans cannot do ?
Never come across a foreign TALENT sO Talented that ALL Singaporeans cannot perform his / her job ?
WHY Singaporeans PMETs with double Masters CPA CMA CIA CFA are still UNemployed or driving taxis for years ? year after year ?
FULL STOP |
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