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louis_leecs ( Date: 31-Aug-2009 10:42) Posted:
window dressing again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no lah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sept 11 akan datang,anniversary effect,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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If only you were right? Ha. ha.. ha...
louis_leecs ( Date: 31-Aug-2009 09:22) Posted:
sixsense tell music just stop,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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So wonderful your advice. I 'll act accordingly, releasing Blue-chips and accumulating several selective Penny stocks. Thank you.
AK_Francis ( Date: 31-Aug-2009 00:16) Posted:
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Sifu, good advices, though AK dun really understand them all how they derived, but I presume u hv some basis to churn out the below, in red, d eyes catching stock trading statements.
In a healthy correction. Most counters will experience a 5-30 % sell down, however there are still few counters will rise especially those penny stocks. At this instance the market are overbought, the market is to far ahead of reality. So this Correction will most likely bring us back to reality or closer to reality. Q3 results release during Oct/Nov are gonna be extremely critical.
Ref to 534 below concern, I also presume u hv downloaded All your blues, as u dun want to keep them in Sep, u deemed as correction mth, except those u mentioned, dun know which penny, u still holding them to get further profit in Sep.
Above AK rough guesses only lah, jangan tension. Nonetheless, US economy is still d driving force for d global market tracks, though China is its assistance to provide some steroid for the momentum of the global economy. Cheers.
risktaker ( Date: 30-Aug-2009 20:42) Posted:
In a healthy correction. Most counters will experience a 5-30 % sell down, however there are still few counters will rise especially those penny stocks. At this instance the market are overbought, the market is to far ahead of reality. So this Correction will most likely bring us back to reality or closer to reality. Q3 results release during Oct/Nov are gonna be extremely critical. Good luck guys.
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In short, that is the best option US can take.
warren ( Date: 30-Aug-2009 14:10) Posted:
| In essence, it is a lesser evil to incur high deficit to stabilise the economy. |
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Just go for equity market!
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BUY as much as we can is the only option, to whom seek for handsome profit in the long run!!!
smartrader ( Date: 29-Aug-2009 19:27) Posted:
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Based on the assumption that equities are not overvalued today, China is worth taking a bet on
By TEH HOOI LING
SENIOR CORRESPONDENT
EARLIER in the week, I attended a briefing by Henderson on its China fund. The fund manager, Andrew Mattock, is very bullish on the Chinese market. This is in contrast with the view of panelists at a discussion at the Invest Fair 2009 last weekend. They urged investors to be careful about going into Chinese stocks now, saying that the market is expensive and that there is a lot of hype over the market.
Taking a completely opposite view is Mr Mattock, who is managing the Henderson Horizon China Fund. Despite the sharp rebound since October last year - Chinese indices have, as at end-July, doubled from their lows of October 2008 - Mr Mattock still thinks that now is a very good entry point to the reawakening dragon in valuation terms.
'The market (stocks that Henderson is invested in) is now trading at 15 times 2009 earnings. We are now in September. We should be looking at what's going to happen in 2010. If we assume a 20 per cent earnings growth next year, the earnings multiple would drop to 12 times. And the companies are still coming from a low base in terms of earnings per share. The 20 per cent earnings growth only gets us half way to the top.' The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index can rise by another 30 per cent without stretching earnings growth estimates, he adds.
I asked him what kind of compounded returns investors can expect from the Chinese market if they were to stay invested in the next seven years. He says that the Chinese economy is going to track the growth of money supply. He reckons that deposits will grow by 15-20 per cent a year, and hence nominal GDP will be growing around 15 per cent per year. Ditto corporate earnings. So conservatively, the stock market should return 12-15 per cent compounded over the next seven years. And that's not factoring in the fluctuation in the renminbi, which he thinks will appreciate over time.
'I personally think I'm being conservative,' he says. It is to be expected that fund managers such as Mr Mattock would be bullish about the funds that they are managing. After all, they are trying to market the fund and the bigger the fund size, the bigger their pay cheques.
So which is which? Should investors buy into China now, or sit on the sidelines first and see how things pan out? Of course, staying out of the market at the right time can enhance one's investment performance tremendously, particularly for volatile markets. And indeed, the stock markets in China have been shown to be extremely volatile.
Between early 1991 and mid-1992, the Shanghai Composite Index shot up by some eight times. Then it plunged by 60 per cent in the next four months. More recently, it moved from about 1,000 points in June 2005 to about 6,000 points by end-October 2007. In the next 12 months, it plummeted more than 70 per cent to just 1,700 points. From that low, it doubled to about 3,400 as at end of last month. But so far this month, it has given back 35 per cent of that gain!
So is it worth the while taking all those stomach-churning rides? I tested what kind of returns investors would have made if they had invested in the Shanghai Composite Index (SHCI) starting from various points in the last 18 years. I then compared the returns to that of the Straits Times Index (STI).
I examined five starting points: in 1991, 1996, 2000, 2002 and 2008. In each of the case, I assumed Investor A put in $100 at the start of the month into the SHCI. Investor B, on the other hand, put $100 at the beginning of every month in the STI.
From the table, you can see that the investor in SHCI has come out on top in four of the five investment periods. The outperformance is very significant. For the capital of $22,400 put in between February 1991 and August 2009, the SHCI portfolio has - as at yesterday - a market value of $68,313. The STI portfolio, on the other hand, is worth $34,134. The annual compounded return for Investor A is 10.3 per cent, and for Investor B, 4.2 per cent. During that time, Investor A actually suffered some currency loss. Back in 1991, one Singapore dollar could buy about three renminbi. Now it can buy close to five. That docked 0.7 per cent a year from the returns.
If we take last month's SHCI closing index of about 3,460 (this compares with yesterday's 2,860.7), Investor A's compounded annual returns for his investment since 1991 would be 12 per cent. This compares with 10.3 per cent based on yesterday's lower close, and 4.4 per cent return on the STI for Investor B.
At last month's closing price, Investor A would have outperformed Investor B for all five periods. The median outperformance is a whopping 6.7 per cent a year.
As it turned out, the 17 per cent correction this month has cut three percentage points from SHCI's median return over the five different investment periods.
What about someone who has invested into China near the peak? In January 2008, the SHCI was still at pretty lofty levels at about 5,261 points. Those who got in at that point in time would still be sitting on significant losses. But the thing is, the market corrected sharply in the months after that. So for investors who have a disciplined investment plan, those who put in a certain amount into the market every month, they would have picked up some bargains along the way.
And up till yesterday, they would have made a return of 5.6 per cent on their capital. This is the only period that the STI has outperformed the SHCI. Regular investors in the STI between January 2008 and now are sitting on gains of 13.8 per cent. Also, in the last 20 months or so, the Singapore dollar has strengthened against the renminbi. However, based on July's closing levels, the SHCI is ahead with an annualised return of 27.4 per cent between January 2008 and July 2009. The STI, in comparison, returned 16.8 per cent. Note that all the above calculations do not take into account transaction costs.
So is China worth the risks? From the above numbers, and based on the assumption that equities are not overvalued today, it would suggest that indeed, China is worth taking a bet on. A lump sum investment made in SHCI back in 1991 would have returned 18.1 per cent a year as at yesterday. The comparable number for the STI is 5.4 per cent.
The writer is a CFA charterholder
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If only you believe it........ about range from Sgd. 100.00 up to Sgd. 300,000.00
tresxd ( Date: 28-Aug-2009 19:41) Posted:
just an interest check, how much do you guys earn from the market monthly? 
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Huh, China Jishan not until the prive reachs >Sgd. 0.10 the traded volume will be big enough I suppose. So I keep buying while the price and the volume still low! Who next? Ha. ha.. ha...
Hulumas ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 10:16) Posted:
So next coming quarter will be Sgd. 0.08! By 2010 first quater will be 0.09! Hopefully.
Hulumas ( Date: 29-Jul-2009 17:32) Posted:
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one point up for each quarter!!! |
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Not really, lately I bought Banjoo just within a month >100% profit. Last time I bought Unifiber at Sgd. 0.015 and 0.02 and within less than a month >300% profit, if only I hold till now I have >750% profit.
keepnosecrets ( Date: 28-Aug-2009 13:05) Posted:
| My most profitable trades are mostly the extremes. Good blue cheaps and cheapest Pennies. Pennies so far gave the highest returns. Like 100 percent. Blue chips abt 50 percent. In pennies buying, for $10K you wait to get $20K 3 to 6 months to 1 year, what's the problem with that?!!!! |
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That is one of the way US huge fund raising globally through its capital market perhaps!
wongkz ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 22:01) Posted:
received a letter from uobkayhian, saying tat citi may execute a 2 to 30 reverse stock split.
anyone w any insights?
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It is simply because you chase for heavy volume traded stocks perhaps! I always buy thinly traded or non liquid stocks, with buy and hold strategy so far so good vary from 80% up to 378% capital appreciation within my equity holding in this year alone. Up to today I still do some switching and buying S* penny stocks. Ha. ha.. ha...
louis_leecs ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 22:40) Posted:
| penny stock look like at the junction of profit taking come allong with pull back,,,,,,,,,,,,im not sure how long can got but look like time of profit taking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,small cap look like run out of steam,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,my trading acct from uob kh,,,,,,phillip,,,,,,kimeng,,,,,fraser,,,,,sato all kena heavy hang,,,,,my cfd acct margin suddenly incease the margin,,,,,,,,,,,,my remiser also kiasu say becareful bear is coming ask me unloaded my pofolio,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and look at top ten holding all kena con by trader who go money to snap up and push up then let go again eveident at hight price,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hope the retailler trader be careful ur hard earning from resent profit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dun contra,,,,,,,,,,,,im strong believe the wind of dorection already quiet change,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,be careful wanning alert |
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I sold it.
wongkz ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 22:01) Posted:
received a letter from uobkayhian, saying tat citi may execute a 2 to 30 reverse stock split.
anyone w any insights?
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Double BEARISH (-) means BULLISH (+) sign. Ha. ha.. ha...
stevenk ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 12:31) Posted:
Hi All,
I am seeing a bearish Double top forming in the weekly chart. And a bearish Head and Shoulders in the daily chart.
Any comments? |
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Why should we worry?
cheongwee ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 16:49) Posted:
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To show improvement, all data point to that...
i got no doubt abt this...Ben told you already in his message..Obama can go holiday to relax..
so , if Obama no worry,,,,you worry what???
m0shii ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 16:44) Posted:
| what do u think of US GDP tonight |
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I beg to differ. Though they listed here with cool response as a result low liquidity in market daily traded volume while the price depressing day by day, and subjected to resoanably high maintaining listing administrative cost in SGX. They come to the solution by dual listing somewhere, and the best place is HKSAR, as such the arbitral trade price in HK could be taken as a good reference against SGX. More and more S* stocks especially penny, small cap will be on trend doing so!
buylist ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 11:24) Posted:
In late, few companies have been announcing dual listing and hence causing a upsurge in price. So far there is no regulatory on this matter and my concern would be ppl are using this to increase share price that may have hidden motives. By comparing, SGX is a small market compared to HSI. Most of those announcements are small or mini cap companies with low or poor liquidity and no track earning records. If they are as "popular" in SGX, then I would presume that they would be worse off in the bigger league for simple reason that they are not even comparable with the HK peers.
Should companies be penalized for this? Expressing an intent is no where near lodging a prospectus. The high cost of listing is something that would eat into the weak earnings (even at good time).
Should this be regulated as it could potentially manipulate share price? IF so, I would see those companies returning to the miserable price position again.
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So next coming quarter will be Sgd. 0.08! By 2010 first quater will be 0.09! Hopefully.
Hulumas ( Date: 29-Jul-2009 17:32) Posted:
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Programme buying will be set up as the following:
one point up for each quarter!!!
Hulumas ( Date: 29-Jul-2009 15:40) Posted:
| I 'll buy slowly China Jishan at Sgd. 0.06 onward till Sgd. 0.12 and hold for about ten years till the price reaching > Sgd.1.00 |
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Which counter next will announce dual listing? KXD is my guess!
bennykusman ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 09:20) Posted:
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there are 90 million share waiting to be sold at 0.06, which makes the market kinda hard to move up... but where is super BB ???
keepnosecrets ( Date: 27-Aug-2009 08:57) Posted:
| This bugger has been quite calm while the overall market was spiking with real confidence. I think it must move when there is calm after the storm. It will storm for Abterra. FAT FAT FAT R! |
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My average cost price now has been reduced to Sgd. 0.09 now. I 'll do money cost averaging again till my cost price reduce to at least Sgd. 0.065. Other stock? I find it not so attractive and potential than KXD........ Ha. ha.. ha...
goondusamy ( Date: 26-Aug-2009 18:15) Posted:
| My gosh, your average px is about $0.105??! Why don't u use your funds to invest in other stocks? Its such a waste of resources to keep buying this just thinking of breaking even. Our regular contributor Mr Cheongwee is giving out so much tips. Follow his call u would have already been lessening your losses. |
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Buy for long term.
hlyhky ( Date: 26-Aug-2009 23:18) Posted:
| Seeing many small vols buying up. experts can share some lights on this counter? |
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KXD is on its second wave recovery move. Target price hopfully around Sgd. 0.04 up to Sgd. 0.05.
StarLine ( Date: 22-Jul-2009 00:48) Posted:
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Good for you, at least, you can average down.
Me, I am out of ammo to do average down,
just have to sit and wait, patiently.
Hulumas ( Date: 21-Jul-2009 16:13) Posted:
| No, not realy, my average cost price is still at about Sgd. 0.105, probably I need to average down again till my cost price reaching Sgd. 0.09, Sgd. 0.08, Sgd. 0.06 by next one quarter, two quarter and next year's first quarter, after that all the way riding profit till at least >five folds |
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