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STI to cross 3000 boosted by long-term investors
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iPunter
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12-Dec-2010 10:06
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Your points are all valid... thanks for sharing your thoughts with all. Results all depend on each individual's flair, skill-level, experience, resourcefulness, inspiration and common-sense... or a combination of some or all of those attributes. Regarding your point about traders, I must point out that traders come in all sizes, and not, as you seem to think, only small players 'trade very often'.
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12-Dec-2010 09:39
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You have a point. All are out to make money. However, it is like saying those who invest in property and those in stocks and futures are the same animals. Those who do not trade/invest but just work are also out to make money. I often wonder how small traders who trade very often in small amounts can make money, bearing in mind the brokerage.
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iPunter
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12-Dec-2010 08:37
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Actually, it is rather pointless to dichotomize investors and traders... As they are both in the same boat, and playing the same game. Both of them (read all of them) are taking risks in the market, not unlike a cheery crowd revelling in a sea resort such as in the movies "Pirhana"... well, it's my view anyway. Feel free to think otherwise... hehehe...  |
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Livermore
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12-Dec-2010 07:52
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You could be missing the main point between investment and trading. I am sure there are people here in this forum who don't trade very much but those who are simply holding to those stocks which have been uptrending since last year most likely fare better than those who overtraded. However sometimes it is ok to trade and it depends. In this bull run, not all stocks have performed well. Oops, I said I wouldn't discuss this too much. Ok, have a nice day.
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teeth53
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12-Dec-2010 00:32
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Ya...Agree too. Traders are like doing business as usual, don take more risk then what they required. Investors like taking risk too often whether is chasing up and or chasing after fallen knife.
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krisluke
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12-Dec-2010 00:32
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BEIJING - China's inflation surged to a 28-month high in November, officials said Saturday, despite government efforts to increase food supplies and end diesel shortages. The 5.1 percent inflation rate was driven by a 11.7 percent jump in food prices year on year. The news comes as China's leaders meet for the top economic planning conference of the year and as financial markets watch for a widely anticipated interest rate hike to help bring rapid economic growth to a more sustainable level. "I think this means that an interest rate hike of 25 basis points is very likely by the end of the year," said CLSA analyst Andy Rothman. China took the unusual move of releasing the inflation news on a Saturday, giving the markets time over the weekend to digest the news. "So obviously we knew we were in for quite a large number," said Alistair Thornton, China analyst for IHS Global Insight. Economists had forecast that China's inflation rate would likely rise to over 5 percent in November. China tried to calm the inflation news. "As long as all departments and regions conscientiously implement the 16 measures by the State Council for making prices stable, prices should be kept basically stable in the near future," said Sheng Laiyun, spokesman for the National Statistics Bureau. Beijing is trying to rein in food prices by launching efforts to increase production of vegetables and other basic goods. Authorities are cracking down on hoarding and speculation they say are partly to blame for the price rises. The bureau also said industrial output, an indicator of economic health, was up by 13.3 percent in November year on year. Retail sales were up 18.7 percent, important to the government's effort to build up domestic consumption to drive growth. Neither figure was a surprise. China's inflation has risen steadily this year despite government efforts to cool an investment boom. It spiked to 4.4 percent in October — well above the official 3 percent target. Economists blame the price hikes on a flood of money coursing through the economy from stimulus spending and bank lending that helped China recover quickly from the global crisis. Inflation is especially sensitive in a society where poor families spend up to half their incomes on food. Rising incomes have helped to offset price hikes, but inflation undercuts economic gains that help support the ruling Communist Party's claim to power. Tom Orlik, an analyst in Beijing for Stone & McCarthy Research Associates, said it was alarming to see price pressure moving beyond food prices. Housing prices were up 5.8 percent and health care prices were up 4 percent. But Rothman said Chinese consumers with their growing income levels are in a better position to handle prices increases, and he pointed out that food still accounted for about 75 percent of the November price rises. "So I think inflation continues to be primarily a weather phenomenon, with monetary policy playing a supporting role," he said, adding that recent bad weather had contributed to a shortage of food. Thornton said one can see food prices tailing off week to week, which should show up in next month's inflation figures. Inflation has risen well above the 2.5 percent paid on Chinese bank deposits. That has triggered an outflow of cash into stocks and real estate as families seek a better return, fueling fears of a dangerous price boom and bust. Analysts have said inflationary pressure could spread to other areas unless Beijing hikes rates and tightens credit. They blame money flooding through the economy from Beijing's multibillion-dollar stimulus and two years of massive lending by state banks. China on Friday ordered its banks to increase their reserves in a move to curb lending. Communist leaders are trying to guide China's rapid expansion to a more sustainable level after growth eased to 9.6 percent in the three months ended September, down from a post-crisis peak of 11.9 percent in the first quarter. But any moves that further slow growth could affect the United States, Australia and other economies by cutting demand for their exports of iron, machinery and other goods. Costs for fuel and other necessities in China have also jumped as supplies have run short. Coal, which fuels about three-quarters of the country's electricity generation, is a special concern, especially in winter months when it also is used in heating systems in the north. The National Development and Reform Commission, China's main economic planning agency, has forbidden provinces from limiting shipments of coal beyond their borders, ordering them to ensure stable supplies. National Bureau of Statistics/- |
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Livermore
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12-Dec-2010 00:06
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I don't want to make any more comments on investment and trading. It is a big yawn to me*Ha*
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Livermore
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12-Dec-2010 00:04
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Yeah
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iPunter
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11-Dec-2010 20:03
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Whether one calls oneself an investor or a trader is immaterial. To me, every participant, without exception is playing with risk. Thus is that sense, they are really no different. the only distinguishing trait is their time frame orientation. I have found that investors are more daring than traders. They take on much much bigger risks than short-term traders. I won't say traders are 'kiasu' (afraid of losing) people, but I have deep respect for traders, regardless of their trade size, since many of them could have been investors before they turned to trading... |
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yummygd
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11-Dec-2010 19:49
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hey ipunter thats e trader mindset right though i dun swing trade but i learn that from u traders lor.
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iPunter
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11-Dec-2010 18:53
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Why you so like dat? Investors forever do not believe in any bubble... But maybe they only love Bubble Tea... hehehe... |
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yummygd
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11-Dec-2010 18:31
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bubble good news!! but must make sure run before bubble burst. if not together we cry
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lowchia
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11-Dec-2010 17:12
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Technical Analysis on STI STI index trend directionless under low trading volume as traders are waiting for more catalyst ahead for better entry level 1) In weekly charts, black candle stick with LONG upper/lower shadow similar to “Doji” indicates that investors are waiting for more cues ahead before entry. 2) The weekly trading volume falls lower as more investors are keeping sidelined. 3) MACD and RSI indicators are flat as MACD lines are conversed together. 4) STI is currently supported by the resistance turned support at 3148. 5) STI range bound between 3213 to 3148 as investors are hesitant to bring the prices higher especially with the recent news of interest move by Beijing. Important resistance of STI: 3213 (Daily charts) Immediate Support of STI: 3148 (Daily charts) MY tactics: Good news --> S&P 500 broke critical resistance and tax relief from US. Bad news --> China plan for interest rate move. Overall we are still bullish on the market since the global economics is still looking great based on data, therefore we maintain our view of buying READ MORE |
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bsiong
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11-Dec-2010 14:07
Yells: "The Greatest Wealth is Health" |
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China says inflation up 5.1 percent in NovemberChina says inflation surges to 28-month high, increasing pressure for interest rate hike , On Saturday 11 December 2010, 12:41 SGTBEIJING (AP) -- China's inflation surged to a 28-month high in November, officials said Saturday, despite government efforts to increase food supplies and end diesel shortages. The 5.1 percent inflation rate was driven by a 11.7 percent jump in food prices year on year. The news comes as China's leaders meet for the top economic planning conference of the year and as financial markets watch for a widely anticipated interest rate hike to help bring rapid economic growth to a more sustainable level. |
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Livermore
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11-Dec-2010 13:39
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What bubble? Just buy | ||||
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tanglinboy
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11-Dec-2010 13:02
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How will China bubble affect stock market? | ||||
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bishan22
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11-Dec-2010 11:04
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As long as you make money from the market, treat those attacks as "seow ren". Quote from Anwar : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsK3zk6eB5k&feature=related
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yummygd
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11-Dec-2010 11:04
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very busy lor lately. I wish holiday let but all my ikan billis never move. I go sentosa holiday better haiz. but there also ex haiz hahaha Bon Bon u got a personal stalker.Haiz serve u right la got maid liao still go out n play.Now Mr Gondu just want u to kiss him n hug him n tell him u love him. flower heart. wahahaha
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yummygd
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11-Dec-2010 10:58
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:) mr Gondu why dun u just start ur own website to post?I dun ever recall reading anything about ur post being anything related to shares at all. what an attention seeker.
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cathylmg
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11-Dec-2010 10:40
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I pretty much agree with you. Cyber bullying is everywhere on the internet, not only in this forum. So no point taking it seriously. Just leave them alone.
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